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Cayman or Cuban? New pics

Mark M Mar 14, 2007 01:48 PM

The pic of the 5 year old caymanensis was taken the day I got him (thanks to jf for telling me about him) That was about a year ago. This newest pic was taken today.

This pic is the photo jf took of the monster male he saw on Little Cayman. This so you can compare a wild male to my captive males.

And this is a photo of my 5 year old turning around to attack me. "close that door fast". My 10 year old male is very tame and friendly.

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jf Mar 14, 2007 09:01 PM

Dont I get to be his uncle or something. He looks good Mark!
This is kinda for the KWE'st postas well.Here is a lighter head Mark mentioned, taken on Little Cayman. I have shots of lots of males and all had the light or yellowish head.

This male lived down the road from the biggest male we saw the photo of which Mark posted. You can tell from the photo they have mixed it up; side, tail, loss of toes.

cycluracornuta Mar 14, 2007 11:02 PM

The Cuban was from David Blair Stock, the Caymanensis was photographed in the Caymans. Note the Caymanensis has a pointier snout and generally more cream coloration, but this is not always the case. The Cubans around Guantanomo Bay can sometimes have high cream coloration. A Pontier snout seems to be the most distinguishing trait separating Cyclura Nubila Nubila from Cyclura Nubila Caymanenis.

KWE Mar 15, 2007 01:55 AM

Thanks you guys, I am still a little confused on what he is, I still lean towards cuban but damn my guy looks so much like the picture Mark first posted of his male. The shape of his head can appear a little different if he puts his head down but he does not have that long nose I have seen on so many. I got him at one or two years old and he has been outside for at least five years. It's tough when they come in different flavors, I would like to see a photo of one of the inland animals(Cubans)to see if they differ from the different coastal and insular groups, here is the photo I posted a few times before of a male on isla San Felipe, I wish I took more photos, I do have some good video of them, I'll have to figure out how to make that available. The San Felipe animals were very different than the central coast animals, which look different than the Guantanamo animals.
Thanks again. KB

rhino5 Mar 15, 2007 10:47 AM

With all the different morphs of cubans, it's really hard to distinguish. Kind of like distinguishing a mona from a hispanolan rhino iguana --very subtle, but a good thing as it helps protect the species.

Mark M Mar 15, 2007 11:17 AM

I thought at first before reading that that was a caymanensis pic because of the caymanensis shaped head. But that is a cuban? The monster male pic of jf's shows a male with less elongated head, but still not as stubby as most cubans (except that one you just posted)

jf Mar 15, 2007 01:39 PM

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