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"Life without risk is to merely exist."

Great shot! Hopefully more individuals of this species will be bred here in the US.
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Chance Duncan
www.rivervalleyexotics.com

Beautiful snake! Have you had any luck in breeding this species? I really like poecilonotus, and I hope whoever bought that pair that was on the classifieds is planning on breeding them. We need more of this genus in our collections.
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Roy Blodgett

1.1 Drymarchon corais
0.1 Coluber mormon
1.1 Lampropeltis getula californiae (desert phase)
1.0 Boiga dendrophila dendrophila
0.1 Candoia aspera (red phase)
0.1 Uroplatus henkeli
0.1 Corytophanes cristatus
2.1 Pogona vitticeps (snow and red/gold)
1.0 Iguana iguana

“All men lie enveloped in whale-lines. All are born with halters round their necks; but it is only when caught in the swift, sudden turn of death, that mortals realize the silent, subtle, ever-present perils of life.”- Herman Melville

I will be pairing him in about a month. I have two females with good body weight and a backup male. My guess is that they will cycle similar to Spilotes. I have been able to breed Spilotes the last three years in the spring, they are usualy the first to breed after a three month cooling period. Fingers crossed.

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"Life without risk is to merely exist."

Right on! I hope you are able to breed them. I may want a baby Pseustes someday if you can. lol
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Roy Blodgett

1.1 Drymarchon corais
0.1 Coluber mormon
1.1 Lampropeltis getula californiae (desert phase)
1.0 Boiga dendrophila dendrophila
0.1 Candoia aspera (red phase)
0.1 Uroplatus henkeli
0.1 Corytophanes cristatus
2.1 Pogona vitticeps (snow and red/gold)
1.0 Iguana iguana

“All men lie enveloped in whale-lines. All are born with halters round their necks; but it is only when caught in the swift, sudden turn of death, that mortals realize the silent, subtle, ever-present perils of life.”- Herman Melville

I first want to say that is a great shot of an amazing snake.

I was the person to buy the pair in the classifieds. RoyReptile, I had been watching those snakes sit in the classifieds for almost 4 months hopeing the price might drop. Your post on Feb. 17 was what sparked the fire under my butt to act on them. hey were not kidding about that high price.

But I did justify the purchase not only because I liked the snakes. I was able to contact the breeders in Costa Rica and I have photos of both parents for each snake and where they were acquired. So apprently, the snakes are unrelated, and yes, I will be breeding them when the time comes.

Right now, the male is on display in my Snakes of Latin America (SoLA) exhibit at the Midwest Museum of Natural History. The female is at home growing separately until that time comes where I introduce them.

Sorry I bought them when I knew you were interested, but I had been watching them for quite some time, and I knew I would eventually have to have them for this new exhibit.

And this brings up another interesting question to everyone who likes this genus. Is there any facility you are aware of in the United States that has a Pseustes (or specifically poecilonotus) on public display? I am thinking our little museum might be the only one.

Take care, and I hope the price this species demands holds to at least half when this pair produces.

Gavin Brink
Wildlife Program Coordinator
Midwest Museum of Natural History
425 W. State Steet (Route 64)
Sycamore, IL 60178
815-895-9777
www.mmnh.org
Wildlife@mmnh.org

I have not seen Pseustes in any zoo and Quetzal and Monica in Coasta Rica were the only breeders of poecilonotus I am aware of. The money is well worth it and I am just as excited to see someone with as much passion as myself to work with them as I no longer have unlimited time to breed. I will share any information I learn in the process in hopes it will benefit other potential breeders. So far mine are very similar to Spilotes other than Pseustes have a taste for human flesh!
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"Life without risk is to merely exist."

I almost forgot to welcome you to the forum. I am not sure what forum we should be on with these snakes. There is no Bird Snake forums!LOL Most Spilotes guys are on racer forum now but Pseustes are more like giant, fast, mean Rat Snakes.
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"Life without risk is to merely exist."

The "Dry" forum is the catch all for large and unusual colubrids! Heck, you're responsible for most of the Spilotes spp. threads on here and the excitement surrounding such! ;0)
Oh well, I gave some serious thought about purchasing those P. poecilonotus, but I'm holding out for someone to come up with some Ptyas carinatus!

Jeff

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Jeff Snodgres
University of Arkansas
snodgresjeffreys@uams.edu
501.603.1947

Ptyas carinatus will be there soon....hehe!
Justin

and I have some VERY good foreign and domestic contacts. I know of four failed attempts to bring them into the US over the past three years, but there appears to be a very promising light at the end of the tunnel. Heck, it has only been 20 years since I last saw one enter the US, so I suppose you could call me patient! ;0)

Best regards,

Jeff
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Jeff Snodgres
University of Arkansas
snodgresjeffreys@uams.edu
501.603.1947

First, i don't have any idea about what's in your country and what isn't and i don't care. I live in Canada and i'm waiting for mine to come home.
Sorry Jeff if i wasn't clear. When i said HERE i mean on the forum.
My apologies.
Take care
Justin

I have been looking for Ptyas also. A friend of mine is setting up an export/breeding opporation in Laos.
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"Life without risk is to merely exist."

No worries, about buying them. I'm really glad that someone who knows a lot about them, and wants to breed them, ended up getting them. However, if you do breed them successfully, please put me on the list for the hatchlings as I would love to have one or two! Thanks for your honesty, as I value it. Good luck with them!
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Roy Blodgett

1.1 Drymarchon corais
0.1 Coluber mormon
1.1 Lampropeltis getula californiae (desert phase)
1.0 Boiga dendrophila dendrophila
0.1 Candoia aspera (red phase)
0.1 Uroplatus henkeli
0.1 Corytophanes cristatus
2.1 Pogona vitticeps (snow and red/gold)
1.0 Iguana iguana

“All men lie enveloped in whale-lines. All are born with halters round their necks; but it is only when caught in the swift, sudden turn of death, that mortals realize the silent, subtle, ever-present perils of life.”- Herman Melville

I will certainly keep you up to date on them, and you will be among the first people I contact if and when hatchlings are available.

I really felt like these animals were crucial for this exhibit I am building from the ground at this museum. I had to kick it off with things people aren't going to see everywhere.

And I do hope your quote at the bottom of your post was not your feelings about these snakes being grabbed before you : ) I had been watching the classifieds and the forums every day for quite some time making sure they were going somewhat unnoticed. A few calls as well. I was really wanting to get them a little cheaper, but unfortunately I actually had to pay more than when I first called on them.

That sounds great! And no, the quote isn't about the snakes, just an excerpt from Moby Dick that I found fascinating. lol
I'm really glad you got them though, as I can tell you will be an excellent owner. I had been watching them on the classifieds hoping the price would decrease too, but I didn't become serious about them until quite a long time later. Anyway, best of luck to you, and I hope you can get them to breed!
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Roy Blodgett

1.1 Drymarchon corais
0.1 Coluber mormon
1.1 Lampropeltis getula californiae (desert phase)
1.0 Boiga dendrophila dendrophila
0.1 Candoia aspera (red phase)
0.1 Uroplatus henkeli
0.1 Corytophanes cristatus
2.1 Pogona vitticeps (snow and red/gold)
1.0 Iguana iguana

“All men lie enveloped in whale-lines. All are born with halters round their necks; but it is only when caught in the swift, sudden turn of death, that mortals realize the silent, subtle, ever-present perils of life.”- Herman Melville

Unfortunately, ISIS only list a single zoological facility with Pseustes spp. , the Emperor Valley Zoo in St. Clair Port of Spain, and it appears they have Pseustes sulphureus only, though someone may know of an unaccredited private facility harboring P. poecilonotus. I imagine the pair you acquired originated from Quetzal and Monica, as they appear to be the only breeders of that particular species. Hopefully, more unrelated lines will be made available, as a single pair in the US leaves much to be desired in the way of any captive propagation intentions.
Congratulations on the acquisition, as they truly are some beautiful animals. Also, I hope you will continue to post updates, especially once they are of breeding age, as I am curious as to whether red and yellow specimens will emerge from the same clutch, or perhaps Quetzal could comment on this, as I know he watches these forums on occasion...
Again, congratulations on a rare and beautiful acquisition!

Thanks also, for sharing,

Jeff
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Jeff Snodgres
University of Arkansas
snodgresjeffreys@uams.edu
501.603.1947

Thank you for the response. And yes, they were from Quetzal and Monica.

Love it!

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