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Black Gap Subocs

MikesMonitors Mar 21, 2007 10:43 AM

Just wanted to share, I have 2.2 of these awesome Subocs!

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Sighthunter Mar 21, 2007 11:32 AM

Black Gap animals are variable. Most are a bickskin background on brown but I have found everything from orange to black and white. Here is a pure gap hatchling with an abarrent pattern and a light background.


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MikesMonitors Mar 21, 2007 11:53 AM

Hunter
Schweet snake!
Crazy pattern...I like it!

I used to breed N.A. desert ratsnakes in the early "90's"
At that time I had some Blondes, normals and Baja rats.

Could you recomend a site or any good books with locale information?
Thank you!
Mike

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Sighthunter Mar 21, 2007 12:34 PM

Dusty has compiled about the most information other than Michael Price. I do not know of any book other than the field guide by Tennant and Bartlett and no book to my knowledge that gives locality morphs and color. Locality information is gleaned by those that spend time in the field as well as those that gather the information. There are exeptions to the rules when it comes to color. Orange was not known from Gap road untill I found one. Blonde is well known from around Terlingua but they can be found in other areas as well. I know of specimens from Study Butte. There is also the question of collectors catching Sub-oc's and releasing them in other areas thus contaminating the purity in areas near the roads but the impact is most likley neglegable.
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dustyrhoads Mar 21, 2007 07:20 PM

>>Could you recomend a site or any good books with locale information?

I've got a book in the works. Should be finished this summer or fall at the latest.

Dusty R.

Suboc.com

MikesMonitors Mar 22, 2007 06:26 PM

Dusty
I look forward to it!
Mike

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Sighthunter Mar 21, 2007 11:36 AM

Here is a wildcaught male from Gap Road three miles from the river. This is the only orange snake I have caught on gap road.


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MikesMonitors Mar 21, 2007 01:44 PM

MS
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shannon brown Mar 21, 2007 06:58 PM

very nice.
Here is a nice orange one from River Road collected by myself and my hunting partner Aaron Mattson.

enjoy,
Shannon
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Sighthunter Mar 21, 2007 09:01 PM

I visited Buzz a few days after you had shown that one to him. This is the first time I got to see him/her. NICE! Here is my Terlingua male.


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shannon brown Mar 22, 2007 09:20 AM

Yeah, Buzz,Ric Blair and Troy Hibbitts all said it was the nost orange one they had ever seen.Between the three of them you know they have seen a couple thousand of them.
I wish I could get a better pic of her to show her real colors.

Shannon

Sighthunter Mar 22, 2007 08:25 PM

Most of the orange I have seen have been from lower river road around Colorado Canyon and West Rancherias. Yours is high contrast Black on Orange, NICE. Breed some!
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MikesMonitors Mar 22, 2007 06:29 PM

ms
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lbrat Mar 21, 2007 04:13 PM

It looks very similar to my male.
The only info. I have on him is that he was caught on a road in Texas that I don't remember the name of.

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Sighthunter Mar 21, 2007 04:29 PM

Looks like Hwy 118 to me. What is nice about your animal is the Black H's. They are not brown like most. Here is a 118 female poping out a few eggs.


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