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Hello every one, i have a problem. I have a smal grop of Pogona henrylawsoni it whas a 3,2 but one of the males died suddenly and now on more is going down by the looks of it. THey are all in good health by the looks of it and i feed them whid crickets, cockroches and saladmix. But now one male has stopt eating and looks sick. Its the same that hapend to the furst male that died. A friend of mine told me this could happen whid henrylawsoni but he dident know why... dose any one have any exeperiense whid this or think he/she knows why ? (it took the furst male 3 days to die and the sekond one is one the 3 day today)

hi
sorry to hear from you los
i only can sugest go to a veterian and do a fecal exame.
maybe there is a parasite some where like worms ,coccodiose ?
as you subscribe first no eating then later dead can be parasites.
this is a link if you not know a veterian nearbij .
www.herpvetconnection.com/
this is a website of a dutch guy who breeding henry lawsony dragons maybe he got a idea send him a mail .
www.henrylawsoni.nl/

byeeeeeee
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www.dragoncave.nl

You need to give us more inforamtion.

Like how old? How long you've had them. How big? What size crickets and roaches?

Tanks size? Enclosure type? Lighting? UVB? Substrate? Calcium and supplements? Warm side temp.? Coolside temp? Basking spot temp.?

Yea if your temps are not on then it could be a problem. If you feed wild crix you may have gotten some sort of parasite from them. Also you feed a salad mix? (Is this a premixed salad you buy?) If so not a good idea, it's mostly iceburg lettuce and cabbage. Beardies are supposed to have collard greens and endive and things like that. Good luck and keep us posted.

Any sudden death (other than from a fall or other physical injury) should be investigated by a qualified reptile vet. They can do a necropsy on the body (providing it was refrigerated after death, not frozen). This is the only way to find out why something died after the fact.

As your second male is showing the same symptons and you waited till the third day to seek help, may not be anything we can do to suggest to save him, other than take him Immediately to a vet. (even then, depending on the cause, this may not save him) IF he doesn't make it, refrigerate him (after death only) and bring him in to a vet for a necropsy.

To even give a guess on what happened to your first male and is apparently happening to your second male, we need to know details about how you have been keeping them for the last several months.

What size cage are each in? UVB light, Basking Temps? How often you feed? Are you supplimenting with calcium powder/vitamins? Are they all housed individually or were they all in one big cage? Have there been any changes to their care/environment in the last week? (since the first male started to get sick)? Now this doesn't mean just within the cage but in the house itself (any renovations in the house? If in an apartment or duplex type set up, have neighbors sprayed for bugs? (ie roach bombed their apartment?)

Again I recommend taking your male and at least one female in to a vet (separate carrying cages for them, boxes or rubbermaid containers are fine, as long as they are big enough for your dragon to lie in comfortable, without their tail bent sharply). Parasites are not likely to cause dragons to go downhill fast. Toxins, viruses etc, are more likely to cause this. Or extreme temperatures.
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PHLdyPayne

Also, Rankins Dragons are too small to eat full sized or large (at a pet store) crickets or large size roaches. In general live food should have a body no longer than the distance between your dragon's eyes.

Impaction cases dragons to stop eating and then die. Usually this is preceeded by an outstreaching or paralysis of the hind legs.

Just a thought.