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I'm just lost on the anery bloodred. That seems like a contradiction in terms, but I might be wrong. Isn't anery no red? If so, then how can you have an anery bloodred, when it has no red? Wouldn't this just be an anery het for bloodred, or am I missing something?

By the way, I'm the guy with the confusing babies. Turns out they are awesome colored after their first shed. They officially are amel motley, although there is one baby who's still up in the air (the dark one next to the normal one in this picture). I'll send ya a better pic Don, when I can. I'm still not sure what it is. I sent that picture to Kathy Love, she seems to know all. On another note, my anery babies are hatching. Dad was snow, mom was anery, I'm thinkin' they should all be anery, but I thought I was gonna have all normal looking babies last time, shows what I know! Genetics are hard, especially when you don't know the hets of your snakes!

AJ French

How can you have an anery blood red or pewter (charcoal blood red)? Well, blood red is more of a pattern morph that ideally comes with an increase in red. If you check out pictures of blood red hatchlings, you will see that 1. The head pattern is 'bald', and 2. the side pattern is 'smudged'or nearly gone. So an anery blood red would have the pattern effects without the color that most people think of when they hear 'blood red'.
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Bloodred is genetically characterized by an overwash of redness, to varying degrees, and an uncheckered venter. Usually the ventral scales have a reddish speckling, particularly along the sides of the belly and toward the rear half of the snake, the rest of the belly and throat being almost pure white. There is very little yellow involved in the bloodred, and also little black in most specimens.
Now, take a bloodred and cross it to an anerythristic(lack of red). The babies will often show bloodred tendencies, but should be normal looking for the most part. All the babies are het for both genes.
Next, cross the babies and chances are you may get some that show traits of both anery and bloodred. A red snake that loses its red. Most of the time these are a near-patternless grey, or develop that look, called pewter.
To get a striped or motley pewter(anery blood), you's have to cross the 2 morphs and follow similar procedures. Starting from a simple anery, a bloodred, and a striped(as hatchlings), it would take AT LEAST 15 years, if you get lucky with every breeding, but probably more.
Anyway, just look at all the great pics and dream of tomorrow.
BTW, cool unknown baby. Looks like a little woma, kinda.
Cheerio,
-Jack
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...and I think to myself, "What a wonderful world."

The "bloodred" is a colour morph that also exhibits a typical uncheckered belly pattern. The original breeders of this morph bred for extremely dark red animals, with unmarked bellies. Somewhere along the way, later breeders decided to apply the term "bloodred" to animals with uncheckered bellies regardless what colour they exhibited. To me, that's just plain ridiculous, but for some reason those later breeders have done everything they can to perpetuate this absurd description of their everything but red animals.

The term "bloodred" should properly be applied only to dark red animals without checkered bellies. For all other colours that have uncheckered bellies, another term should be used. "Checkerless," is the obvious choice, but I doubt that the stubborn ones will ever agree to it.

tricia

>>I'm just lost on the anery bloodred. That seems like a contradiction in terms, but I might be wrong. ...
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tricia