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Hello, this is my first post here on this board. I was wondering what your opinions might be regarding the market for Green Tree Pythons. I have kept reptiles for several years and I wanted to start a little project to maybe pay for it self, or at least help out! Anyway, I have done a ton of research and talked to or emailed a couple of different breeders, but I wanted to see what the general public might think about the market for these beautiful creatures.

All responses welcome!!!

breeding green tree pythons is expensive and the turn out wont get you cash fast. It takes a few seasons (with mutiple pairs) of breeding for it to really pay for itself. but that is no reason to not pursue breeding. You say you have done reasearch and may have a good knowledge already but there is much to learn before you start breeding these animals. I recomend you keep asking any questions and or wonders to credible folks in the trade about any concern you may have. Keep us posted and happy hunting

best of luck
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1.0 cb pastel bp
0.1 cb normal bp
0.1 cb BRB
0.1 cb Cyclops Mt./jaya GTP
1.0 cb aru GTP
1.0 cb blue bar ambilobe panther cham.
0.1 cb bosc's monitor
2.0 wc scottish terrirers

The designer market is alive and well. Get the right bloodlines and you will not have any complaints.




Even the average chondro will draw attention. I cannot say I have ever looked at one I did not like.

Brandon Osborne

Brandon,

those pictures are amazing! That is what I am working on now. Trying to pick where I want to buy from and who. I am located in southern california, I know there is a breeder out here who started the lemon tree line, Tim (not sure of the last name). Do you know if has a website? Or how I might be able to get in contact with him. I have heard his designer line is just awesome. anyway, I have been contact with Greg Maxwell and am considering order a couple of babies from him, and trying to get a couple of yearlings that have some nice color and pattern from people that are forced to sell or just don't want to do this anymore. Any suggestions or tips would be great!!!

Cathy Maynard is also in So. Cal. She has some nice animals as well.
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1.2.2~Green tree python
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Dogs, cats, horses....
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Hi -- from Northern California here (Oakland). Any breeders up in NorCal? Holler out peoplez.

Also, anyone know if Ed Bradley lives in California too, I saw some of his snakes at LLLreptile and Upscale. Thanks, Chad.

As for N. Cal Breeders....well, I used to live in Marin but now I live up in the northern rainforests of the Tongass. I'll be making a good number of cbb animals available from yearlings to sub-adults.

Rich Culver

Cool Rich -- Do you have a contact/ website? Thanks, Chad.

Chad--
Try me at: flywater@alaska.net

Rich

the lemontree line was started by Tim Turmezie, his founder male was cb from unknown wc animals, the breeder(s) of this animal doesn't remember what the adults looked like that produced that male.

Tim sold his chondro's a couple of years ago and the founder male is currently owned by John Holland, I beleive he currently has it paired up, there are several other people breeding animals from the lemon line as well with different outcomes.

the market, I don't know I keep buying animals so I guess it's doing well, lol

Jurgen.

Good to see you back on here Jurgen!

Brandon Osborne

Yeah, I guess it's all about what you believe in and how hard your willing to work at it. I think there might be a fair amount of risk involved but what doesn't nowadays!!! Anyway, this is a real exciting time for me and I am open too any suggestions for a newbie!!! I just got on the rsvp list for Greg maxwells Socrates and pastella list. I was looking some Brandons animals as well. Would anyone with experience suggest keeping a few normal animals as well?

There is always room for normal animals. Not everyone can afford high end/designer animals, but locale types will always be a good comodity. I have a few and I'm always looking for more. My blue babies are from a locale type cross I did last year with a "paradox" blue Bokondini type and a Biak type. Needless to say, they turned out better than I had hoped.....and getting big. Any chondro is a beautiful chondro. They are the 'Bentley' of snakes......some just have a more fancy paint job.

Bradon Osborne

I love my normals! I wouldn't trade my Sorong type for all the gold in India. She has a wonderful temperament and she's a pretty girl too!

And my plain joe Jaya type

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1.2.2~Green tree python
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Dogs, cats, horses....
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Is it true (or false) that a lot of the high end designer chondros are sold behind closed doors, i.e., never advertised to the public (through Kingsnake for example)?

I don't think I've ever seen designer chondros on Kingsnake, although I've never looked there for any. Most are sold by word of mouth or waiting lists that people get on. There are other forums specific to chondros where people can post designers and such. Most of those sites require proof that the animal is captive born and bred and not farmed or w/c.
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1.2.2~Green tree python
1.0~ATB
Dogs, cats, horses....
www.franclycac.com

Hello,

I'd say it is partially true that "high end" Chondros do not make to public classifieds. Only partially true, though. There are a number of stellar animals and pairings most of the time on another, Chondro specific, site.

Here's how I would recommend obtaining a not often offered animal (and this has worked very well for me):

1) Pursue the breeder of the animal(s) you like. 2) Have cash in hand. 3) Don't flake.

That's it, really. There are nuances to the three points that could go on for pages but it really boils down to the three (for me).

Say, for example, right now you have a few CB(!) Chondros and have had them for a while (year ), are pretty well-read on Chondros and are looking for a line/selectively bred animal that does or may have the phenotype you are interested in, but you do not know any breeders specifically. You can put a general call-out on a Chondro specfic website of course, but what I'd recommend is to contact someone like Rico Walder and tell him what you are looking for and about how much you are willing to spend. You'd be amazed at the results. Maybe even send a pic of the exact animal you fancy and more likely than not he can tell you who owns or bred the animal or if you being realistic. A LOT of Chondro people know each other pretty well and also what people are working with which lines. Expect to get an answer in a day up to a month. (Once, I wanted a yellow faced animal and put the word out and I think it was about two years till I attained him {Moken}. A blue one (LBB) took me six months. Sometimes it has only been hours {LTFM}).

That's the easy part. If you don't flake and come through with whatever you agreed to, then you will build a reputation and probably be offered animals in the future before: 1) they are hatched, 2) offered in the classifieds, 3) anyone else is offered the animal you've always wanted that just became available. The flaking part is where a lot of folks stumble. Disappearing and wasting somebody's time is VERY difficult to recover from--again, a lot of Chondro people know each other.

Anyway, just a few thoughts. Hope this helps some.

--John