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I've been trying to get a fecal sample for exam since Eve arrived. After pooping in the water bowl and thereby missing the opportunity twice, I noticed her back in the water bowl a few days back. I am kinda slow but can learn new tricks. It was about time for another present and I figured, remove the large water bowl and replace it with a smaller one. It worked, she finally pooped on the paper where I could recover it. I called up my vet I have used in the past to find out she was no longer there. They did recommend another vet a little further away. So I called in and was told to bring her in, no apt needed. I bagged her and brought her and her sample in. Standard new client / new patient paperwork and all. The Vet seemed very knowledgeable and even knew about some of the hypo history.

Eve passed her physical with flying colors. Physical exam included eyes, mouth, upper respiratory and full body palpitation. Doctor Look said she was in fine physical condition. Some obvious scarring from unknown battles, but only surface wounds. Eve didn't like the exam, really didn't like the being restrained part. Afterwards, I held her for almost a half hour waiting for the results on fecal exam and she was puppy dog tame the entire time. Not one aggressive behavior!!

As I expected, the fecal exam came back positive for parasites, he said she was loaded with them. They were out of the liquid Panacur and all he had was granular. I asked about simply gut loading her food and the vet was surprised I was that far ahead of him and would be willing to do that. So now I have enough panacur to last forever (or at least well beyond expiration date )

Now for the real funny part, I live in San Jose, CA, population pushing 1 million people, surrounded by several other cities with similar populations. I drive 15ish miles to get to this new vet office. My new snake doctor lives three blocks from my house....small world!! Hmmmm, house calls?

You read tyhis far you deserve some pics, ok, not new ones but still pretty:

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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
19.29 BRB
13.18 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Congrats on getting your sample for the fecal first off and second would be getting her to stay with you for 30 minutes and not wanting to bite you since your are a bad man

I was wondering since I was gonna expand my collection in the upcoming few years and may encounter a problem and I am not familiar with administering drugs to any of my pets so what is the difference between granular and liquid Panacur Dave? Administered the same way too? ?'s and more ?'s I'm sorry about that
Bob

Thanks and np on the questions, wish I had this resource when I started. Way back in cave man days, pre-internet, even Pre-PC!!

Standard treatment is to tube snake and via syringe at other end of tube, inject liquid panacur into esophagus. Snake swallows it and it proceeds to kill off nasties in the digestive tract. The intent is to get medicine swallowed. Since all he had was a granular form, Panacur is most widely used as dog dewormmer, The question is how to get granual form into snakes digestive tract. My thought, and the vet agreed, was get the granular medicine into a feed item and when the snake eats, she gets her meds! Actually, the vet was surprised I suggested it. Not knwing me and the fact I feed off dozens of rodents every week. Offing a rat and putting a small amount of meds down it's throat is no big deal for me, gotta do what ya gotta do. Tricky part would be measuring out the correct amount but I have an appropriate scale already, again, no big deal.

IMO CBB should not have problems with parasites, only the WC animals and with all the snakes I have, this is my first WC!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
19.29 BRB
13.18 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Glad to hear things went so well, even though the expected parasites were there. And I have to say, that is a very clever way of getting those meds in her. Stuffing them down a rat... genius! Hope those nasties clear up soon!
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n/p Dave. Pre-pc days- for me that would be like 2005 so almost everything is new. For instance when you told me awhile back to copy and paste the image tags on a spreadsheet I was like what in the hell is a spreadsheet (still don't know haha seriously

Since we are talking about medications and stuff how do you treat a uri in a boa and I tried looking it up before I asked but apparently wasn't looking in the right place (user error) I thought I read on the boa forum they you give 'em shots but what is the scoop Dr. Dave?

how are they delivered?
in what form liquid..?

u da man Dave for the answers and I had to refill 7 water bottles today for the damn rodents and can't wait for my Edstrom goodies to come in so that will no longer be needed Hooray for less time with the feeders and more time with the eaters
Bob

LOL, by copy / paste into a spreadsheet, I meant something like Excell where there are individual cells that can have different info in them, can be test, numbers or formulas. Works great for image tags. You could also use any document software like word. Would be similar except you'd have to put each image url with tags on a new line.

Not a doctor by any means, just comfortable with pretty much doing anything. As a teen was camping in the deep woods and got a tick, trying to get it to come out killed it while still in. My buddy couldn't cut it out so I had to do it myself....did it and have a tiny scar to prove it!!

As I understand it, URI requires an injected antibiotic. Have not dealt with one (so far) but I did have a BRB with an infected mite bite on the occular scale about 18 years ago. My only previous experience with mites. The vet prescribed antibiotics and even then I was able to do it myself. He needed three injections. Went home with one already administered and two prefilled syringe. They were injected into the muscle tissue as I remember. Again, not a big deal.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
19.29 BRB
13.18 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Good to hear that there is nothing out of the ordinary going on with her. No flagyl?
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Dave,
..Same question. No Flagyl? What kind of parasites?
Jeff

>>Good to hear that there is nothing out of the ordinary going on with her. No flagyl?
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You know, he said what kind and it went in one ear and out the other. was more thinking what do I need to get her better. Maybe I should call back and ask, not just for me but for her history. hmmmm not used to dealing with parasites.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
19.29 BRB
13.18 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

with the the Panacur being used. Isn't Flagyl for treating other types of worms and organisms like Amebiasis, Protozoans, and Flagellates?
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Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

That sounds like what the vet said...

>>with the the Panacur being used. Isn't Flagyl for treating other types of worms and organisms like Amebiasis, Protozoans, and Flagellates?
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>>Frank Roberts
>>Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
19.29 BRB
13.18 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats