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MADE YA LOOK!
You guys know I don't talk to much about this stuff, it's bad luck LOL!
I do hope to see just about every variant in Brooksi and some subspecies crosses as well as Hondurans, and plenty of Pits too. Good luck everybody!
















Can't wait to see some 07s! Tom Stevens
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TomsSnakes.com

wow... beautiful...
I just added to my "I want" list lol...
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"If only closed minds came with closed mouths."

You're "signature" is JUST like mine!!!LOL
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Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!

lol... ya... i just changed it... it's a sticker on the door to the tattoo shop I just got my new tattoo at... I thought it was great...
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"If only closed minds came with closed mouths."

great animals! i think i'll take a pair of all those. i'm especially excited about your florida king variants, and will certainly be venturing out into some of those this year. we'll see how my first breeding of normal brooks and floridana goes!

I get so many people interested in normals that I think you'll do well with them. A lot of my collection is hets so I get lots of normal looking snakes carrying genes for this n that, lot's of fun. Tom Stevens
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I'm probably getting some brooksi this year.
My ideal would be a trio -

Female Hypo (or PB or lavender or ?? not amel)
Female Axanthic
Male normal double het for both from different breeder than females (so he's somewhat unrelated).

That would let me eventually produce some "normals" (that are 100% het one trait 50% het other trait) as well as some morphs (that are 50% het other trait).

If I find someone breeding really nice sulfurs that might be nice too but maybe not this year.

There's so much I want to work with but I need to remember not to expand too fast. I think it would be neat to work with Glossy snakes, Night snakes, Pituophis, as well as the Lampros.

I think with Pituophis I'm going to try and be patient and wait until I find really outstanding looking wild (locality) specimens, and not collect/buy any until then. I'd love some Cape Gophers though, I really would, but I think I'm just going to initially work with pacific gophers when I find something outstanding.

Glossy snakes - unless there is a different species not in california, unfortunately any work with them would have be non commercial, which can make it more difficult to offload the young - as well as difficult in obtaining breeding stock, and I hear it can be difficult to get them off of lizards and onto rodents. So I might decide to wait with them until laws are a bit more sane and allow easier offloading of captive bred young.

Night snakes - I see the Texas species in classifieds from time to time. I like the California kind but I really would rather not deal with native species laws for non commercial if I was to work with them.

Corn Snakes - I'm a fan of Okeetee. Normal Okeetee and amel Okeetee - both are outstanding. I've got a really nice '06 male Abbott line that will be "officially" mine in a few days (it isn't quite yet, my sig is a prophecy). I've also seen some sweet Miami phase but I don't think I'll be getting any anytime soon.

I tell ya - if my local pet store had carried Okeetee instead of the typical amel, anery, and normals - I probably would have several corns by now. Okeetee is a really nice phase.

Baja Blue Rock lizards would be sweet to work with too, but I think I want some more experience with other lizard species first. I'm currently only working with Southern Alligator lizards, I may try to work with western skinks (or ground skinks as they are non native) as feeders for stubborn lampros until they get switched. But neither of those species are particularly difficult so I'm not sure they "count" as far as lizard husbandry skills.
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3.6 L. getula californiae
1.1 L. getula nigrita
1.0 Pantherophis guttatus guttatus
1.0 Boa constrictor constrictor (suriname, fostering/rescue)
2.3 Elgaria multicarinata multicarinata

Wow hard to believe after thirty years and a zillion snakes kept I’m going to end up with Corn snakes! Those Abbott corns are totally getting me more interested everyday. I love the exaggerated “normal” look of those. The picture perfect corn. I also like those hypo hondos with the brilliant white bands, like a giant hypo red milk. Those are so pretty, my wife might even let me have those in the house! Sure got more color than my drab patternless Goini and Ghost Brooks, but I still love ‘em.

I got Cribo- no color
I got leucistic rat- no color
I got WS Brooks- no color
I got Spilotes- no color
I got Goini- no color

Finally, a picture of one of my snakes with a little color!!

Fnky

Isn't the Peoples Republic of kalifornia marvelous.

I see Womas! in the background, no? Do you have any hopes to make any more sometime soon? (Sorry, I tried to be vague about using the "Hopefully breeding" wording)
That black and white evil looking Hondo? is wicked!!!
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Tom

"The more people I meet, the more I like my snakes"

Howdy, if you mean will I have any Womas the answer is probably not. I have had no luck with them at all......and it is really depressing. I love the snakes, but I can't get an egg out of them. Since I seem to do well with colubrids I shouldn't complain too much, so I better stop now.........
They are really cool snakes though. With any luck I will get my first ever clutch of Python eggs soon, from my Cape York Spotted Pythons. Tom Stevens
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Great pics Tom. You've got some beautiful animals.

Steve

Tom, love the whitewall and the pits!! Whats the ninth one down from the top? She's beautiful! Kevin

Hey Kev, you mean the one laying eggs? That is a Hybino Sonoran Gopher......the one above it is a sub adult Sulfur Lav Brooksi. Glad you like the pics, I hope to take a million more this season
Tom Stevens
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