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I've been working on filling in my BRB collection page and added a few new pics. Some of the BRB's have never been shown here before. In no specific order:

Tommy, one of the new breeder stock I bought in 2004, he came out very nice and has been breeding for me this season.

Next is Milla, she's over Visiting with Mike. From what he describes, she was an eager virgin, popped her cherry and was instantly huge with a pile of het hypo babies. Now all we have tpo do is pace, pace, pace. This is actually an older pic but best I have for now.

Moving right along, this is Crystal, she's a smallish 2004 I picked up fall of 2006, Nothing super special but still a very good looking BRB:

This one is Lily, one of my two 2006 holdbacks. The Boo litter had some really cool different looking babies in it. Some Eclipse babies where there is very little (even none) crescents. Also out of that litter are some I'm calling blush where the crescent color is speckled through the normally dark portion of the side blotch. Many of the extreme ones look like faces. Actually look like negative images of faces.

Last up is Lon, Lilly's brother, THE most extreme blush I produced. I believe this pic has already been posted but well worth looking at again (and again and again...) How many faces can you spot?

Thanks for looking!!

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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
19.29 BRB
13.18 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Very cool! Although, Tommy and Milla sure look an awful lot alike!
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Made a mistake uploading pics to the website, Don't actually have a recent pic of Mila. Ah well, still have some pic spots to fill!! Soon I will have pics of them all!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
19.29 BRB
13.18 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Tommy and Milla do look a lot alike and Crystal looks like she could be Eve's offspring for some reason or another, just can't get that out of my head Dave-what's your thoughts on that? is it just me?
Bob

Bob, It's that "blood red" coloration, Dave, since, she's not so special, send her to me lol. SHE'S gorgeous!!!!
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Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

I collect them, growing the collection every year. It would be contrary to let any go somewhere else until I had something even better to replace it. I'm thinking it will be some time before I'd let her go, I have several I'd let go before her, None will be available anytime soon! Nice try....NOT!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
19.29 BRB
13.18 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

...
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Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

greedy and he is talking about replacing them with better ones eventually I can't begin to think what Dave will be making in the next two years with his DISTINCT collection of normals. I think he is at like 48 brb's, in five years it may very well be 78 brb's.
Bob

No way will it take me that long!!

Just the Genesis project alone will grow my collection by more than that within three to four years. And if the striping is genetic, even more so since I'll have to hold back babies to see if they are het.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
19.29 BRB
13.18 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

LOL
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Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

when you get over 100 snakes over there, I'll move there and clean your cages for free but no strip searching either by you or Frank when I leave. (Talking about Frank) Anyone who responds multiple times to their own replies with the comments that guy makes, he must be scary jk Frank I actually look forward to reading any reply you make either on this forum or for the boa or retic. You should post some OT pics every once in a blue moon.
Bob

Hmmmm, free snake cage cleaning..... OK!!

But I will be putting in a security system with all my snakes PIT tagged and sensors at all the windows and doors. 100 is not that far away, I've had many litters that would put me over 100 right now!! And if all is going as planned, several are already in the ovens!! Heck, in 2005 I produced 136 babies from 6 females. I've got at least 9 or 10 possibles for this year and somewhere around double that for next year. I'll be able to be selective who gets bred and who gets that year off.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
19.29 BRB
13.18 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

100 more like 200 (quite possibly 300 easily too) especially including your bci's and all those damn Motley's (maybe even a Super Motley for Frank) you will have over squirming around all with a slew of other morphs and desiger morphs. I don't think I'm bored Dave but rather excited so I decided to make a little list of the brb's you haven't even had the chance to acquire yet and therefore haven't had the chance to keep any of them and their holdbacks and combos

holdback anery's
double hets from hypo x anery (may just produce them rather than keep them though)
ghost if Mike should happen to let one slip out his back door
albino or two
holdback albinos
double hets from anery x albino
holdback double hets from this breeding
snows
holdback snows
double hets from albino x hypo (Dave would this be a highly colored albino or no telling til it happens and I know it is just an opinion so you don't have to even bother?)
triple hets
triple het holdbacks
maybe a little calico or a true pied to certain extent
and the striping to go in between all of them

probably missed some but that list is a dream come true!!!!
Bob

LOL
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Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

And I'm in a position to do them all!!!!!!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
19.29 BRB
13.18 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

lol
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Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

tell me you didn't her the rumor of how my mom dropped me repeatedly as a child (on the head) and now I am starting to suffer from it Snakes are very addictive and TB has some beautiful snakes over there and personally I like those Nics he has over there are unbelievable especially those hypos, ghosts and Tpos takes the cake. Well I look forward to see what you leave from Dave's house with one day. I really don't care for the motley's cuz they are dark but the potential for the hypo and albino motley are real nice and the super speaks for itself.
Bob

boas lol
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Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

denial and such, will forbid him from allowing me to have either Thing, Diablo, and or Crystal. It wouldn't surprise me if he craps matted fur. I was going to offer him some "BA" Meetings but I doubt he would go and I also suppose me being his sponsor would be out of the question, I just can't see him calling me to talk him out of purchasing that next "fix". Probably better for me. I only have 1.1 Brazilians and would just fall of the wagon anyway's.
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Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

Hey Frank, want to get blown off the wagon? Just come by for a visit, that'll get you so pumped up and drooling you'll be foaming at the mouth for your next acquisition as well!!

The next few years will be amazing for me, so many new animals coming of age and so many options for breeding. I am even making up index cards with info and pics for planning out pairings for the always coming "next" season. Just the kind of headache I always wanted, should I put Crystal with Diablo or Tommy. Would Amber throw better babies with Pheonix or should I breed her back to her father. The other thing I need to make up and put on the cards is breeding results. Not how many babies but more towards the colors and morphs from the pairing. Like BO-PO produced Eclipse and Blush babies with OK coloring while SA-PO produced Eclipse (no blush that I remember) with insane coloring.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
19.29 BRB
13.18 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

I can see all the potential in the Brazilan's you have put together, it's very impressive indeed. I already have 57 snakes, 3 frogs, 3 turtles, and several scorpions. I need to STAY AWAY FROM YOU lol
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Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

LOL, ditto I'm sure!!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
19.29 BRB
13.18 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

I have two lone female boas (BCI). I don't want a "reg" male either!!! I am stuperfied by the different boas available, when I saw the "super motley" I nearly had a seizure ( I have an affinity for patternless all black and or all white snakes ). I realy can not decide what I want, I can not afford a super motley anyway, but those darn lipstick line sunglows are starting to get to me lol, I better stop my veins are starting to throb!!!
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Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

Something like these.......

Reverse trio of pastel motleys, besidews all the motley x ? combo's, I will be producing super motleys as well!!
Motley M1


Motley M2


Motley F1

Or possibly this Coral albino from the Burkes 2005 Ruby litter?

Burke lipstick line (Ruby) Coral albino 2005

Or this other 2005 coral albino from Mike at basically Boas:

See, I am a baaaaaaad influence!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
19.29 BRB
13.18 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

funny you should post the "exact" line I want from TB, you are killing me!!! (pleasantly) lol. I am not much on the motley pattern(they are beauties however)boas, the super caught my heart though, it's all a matter personal preference, they are all beautiful in their own right. But those lipstick sunglows, I gatta get me one of those. I keep all types of snakes, I have 5 different species of boas, and like 10 different species of pythons, Im addicted since childhood, my first python was a reticulated at age 11, I worked in a petstore, I had him 14 years and still have decendants from breeding him, he was killed in 1995 during a breeding trial with a HUGE female.
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Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

Yeah, I had to laugh when you posted about the BL sunglows, I just got that BL Coral albino from the lipstick line. Still in the Q-room! A VERY good looking Coral albino....that tails is killer!!! And the coraling is way cool!!!! Can you say BL coral sunglow?
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
19.29 BRB
13.18 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

I end up getting one eventually lol
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Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

blame me, you wanted one before you knew I had one!!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
19.29 BRB
13.18 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

very true!!! I have been eyeballing boa morphs for a long time. It's just a matter of time and the right one making me say NOWS THE TIME lol. I do get confused with all the boa morphs out there, is that lipstick line sharp strain lineage? or Kahl strain, I never looked into it, by looks I think Sharp strain albinism but I am way under educated when it comes to boa lines and morphs, I got my boa from the boawoman and the other one a friend gave to me, both females. SO I have to get something male lol! Even If I don't breed them, at least I would have a chance to try if I had a pair. I have bred several python,colubrid, and many amphibian species over the years, but only have bred Brazilians. So you had nothing to do with the original concept, but your helping get closer to diving in. lol
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Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

The lipstick line is Kahl strain. Will fit into all my other Kahl strain morphs. I haven't swayed over the the Sharp side, killer animals but killer price tags to go with them.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
19.29 BRB
13.18 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

told ya I didnt know squat about boa strains lol, well has anyone dared mix the two strains lol (kahl X sharp) or is that a no no kinda thing?
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Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

Well Frank since Dave didn't chime in, no they are genetically incompatible but both are tyrosinase negative and of course the t pos is the caramel albino.

Bob aka "The Elaborator" aka "The Rambler"

Yes they are incompatible but I believe Kahl is T-Neg while Sharp is T-Pos which is why it is compatible with the caramel hypo. Of course, I couldhave the neg and pos backwards, I believe no real testing has been done to determine which is which.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
19.29 BRB
13.18 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

check out Designer Morphs page 206 it says these boas (Kahl) are tyrosinase negative.

page 207 Like the Kahl Strain, the Sharp lin albino is Columbian, is a totally seperate form of naturally occurring tyrosinase negative.

did John mess up?
Bob

Well, I'm by no means an expert, but to my thinking, with caramel hypo hypo working together with sharp albino and, to my knowledge, has not been id'd as working with Kahl. I think they must be affecting the albinism in two completely different ways. One not making melanin, the other not being able to show it.

Someone with a better understanding of genetics would probably be able to shoot holes in my thoughts.

Bottom line is no true genetic analysis has been done to identify the tyronase status of either. Just physical breeding trials.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
19.29 BRB
13.18 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

they would make double hets though and when bred together in theory you should get 2 dif types albino and a pos visible dup of both in one snake.
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Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research