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possible hybrids on the way?

gexy Apr 01, 2007 11:17 AM

I know that I will almost certainly get a lot of negetive feed back from this but it's still egg-citing! I have had a single female U. Macfadyeni for 4 years now and I've never been able to find a male here in Canada. She has laid two infertile clutches of eggs in the past(I've never housed her with any males so of course the eggs weren't fertile). After months of debating while my uros were brumating I decided to cross breed her(just this one time!)Picking a male for her was hard. I have a young adult male ornate and a young adult, male, yellow saharan. I let her choose. She wanted no part of the ornate!!! She even tried to bite him. When introducing her to my saharan she got along with him just great! They've copulated several times during the past week or so. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed!

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0.1 U.maliensis
2.1 U.geyri
2.2 U. ornatus
0.1 U. macfadyeni

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KnoldgReignSuprm Apr 01, 2007 11:39 AM

I would be excited,too, if not for one thing.Today is April Fools. But I read all uro species share identifiable DNA w/ each other,except U. hardwicki. I wonder if the offspring will be fertile?

KnoldgReignSuprm Apr 02, 2007 07:10 AM

People being opposed to a CB hybrid is one of the dumbest things I have heard pertaining to uros. Maybe they think they can save the species/genus with their "pure" babies. You can't save animals from the US. You want to save them, go to Africa or the Near/Middle East. Once you take them out of the habitat,imprint all over them, and feed them produce(etc.), that's it-niether them nor the offspring can go back, period.So what basis IS THERE to be upset? You don't like it-don't do it-Don't buy it! Quote:"Stimpy,you EEEDIOTT!"-REN.

LeoLady420 Apr 03, 2007 09:39 AM

Personally if it breeds ok and there is not problems with the babies, such as mutations malformations, or anything along those lines, then i see no problem with it, but if you breed and you consistantly are getting malformations of herps then i would not try breeding them again. That's what i think anyways. Everyone has their own opinions!

KnoldgReignSuprm Apr 04, 2007 07:42 AM

Has that happened? Or is that an abstract fear? I never heard of such a thing, but who will brag "look at my hybrid 3 eyed uros, they can't walk, but look at them!" I was relly thinking of hybrids w/in the same GROUPS. And I think( i have to check)that geyri and macfadyeni are more closely related than you would think. But that's a good post nonetheless! Thanx

KnoldgReignSuprm Apr 05, 2007 07:44 AM

I must have confused Benti w/ Geyri. Here is the chart showing diffrent groups and their evolution/DNA family tree. Uros are believed to have originated in the middle east then spreading to north Africa. I found this chart online but i suspect it is from Thomas Wilms' book Uromastyx Natural History...

gexy Apr 06, 2007 06:13 PM

Thanks! The chart is very interesting! Geyri and macfadyeni are distant relatives but hopefully still genetically comaptilble.
I guess I'll have to wait and see!
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0.1 U.maliensis
2.1 U.geyri
2.2 U. ornatus
0.1 U. macfadyeni

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