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anyone produce this color?

jayfischerherps Apr 02, 2007 06:13 PM

she came with no directions,anybody know what she is?
want to reproduce the look but no one can tell me what she is,all they say is nice amel.All the white areas are actually yellow the flash washed it out.
thanks in advance
Jay~

Replies (6)

sean1976 Apr 02, 2007 07:06 PM

I may be wrong but I think it is just that, an amel.

The appearance of amelanistic corns varies drastically depending on the normal color background of the corns ancestery. A perfect example of this is copare the appearance of a "candy cane" corn to a "reverse okeetee" corn. Both have the same simple recessive genetic morph "amelanism" but they have drastically different appearance.

Also I am not sure which natural color phase yours would be an amel version of.

I am by no means a cornsnake guru so feel free to correct me if I made any errors.

DMong Apr 02, 2007 07:48 PM

It's basically a slight variation of an albino(amel)"Okeetee" Cornsnake, or aka "reverse Okeetee", because the thick black blotch borders are replaced with voided white, along with retaining the very orange background coloration.
There is a possibility that some would call it some "unique" name. But this probably happens a little too often than it should, in my opinion, as everyone likes to "coin" their own name to animals in hopes of appealing more to the market.
I remember many years ago, there were some corns at a big show called "Christmas Corns"!, they were "supposed" to have slightly greenish borders around the saddles, but all I saw was an amel. cornsnake, it certainly didn't warrant the name at all to me.
Yours does have a substancial yellow cast to it, but I'm not aware of a "given" name for those as of yet.

anyway, it's a nice looking snake!, and like I said, is an (amel) "Okeetee Cornsnake"

best regards, Doug
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newmann Apr 02, 2007 09:10 PM

grow up to look like that! I'd like to have one that dark red.

PHLdyPayne Apr 03, 2007 02:56 PM

It is an amel, lacking all black/brown pigment. However, various 'branches' of amelanistic corns have been bred for particular traits. Not just the genetic mutation causing no melane (black/brown pigment) to be produced. Okeetee corns are a locale phase of corn snake, with thick black borders around orange-red to red saddles. An amel okeetee, often called reverse Okeetees are the same genetically, as regular amel corn snakes. Candy canes and similar corn snakes are snakes bred to exhibit strong white/red colors, etc.

Your amel (or albino as some call simple amelanistic corn snakes (or red albino in this case) is quite striking with intensely dark saddles. But it is still an amel. If you want to breed might be a good ideal to look for one similar in appearance to enhance that trait in the offspring.
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PHLdyPayne

sean1976 Apr 03, 2007 04:57 PM

I agree. And while you can find "amel's" anywhere with cornsnakes you will most likely have to do a bit of searching to find a mate to compliment those strong colors.

Good luck and let us know how it goes.

PS: I'd suggest picking the mate up at a reptile show if possible so you aren't relying on pictures for telling the appearance of the animal and so you can handle it first.

Sean.

kathylove Apr 04, 2007 11:35 AM

They were usually amel (reverse) okeetees that had a bit of bloodred blood in them from the previous generation or two. That accounts for the more intense red and orange, and narrower white rings. But not all crosses of those two types look like that.

I would suggest breeding with a reverse okeetee that has really wide white borders. Maybe you can get a few babies with the intensity of mom's colors, but with wider borders. Raise as many babies as possible for at least several months before choosing "the best" (by whatever standards that will enhance your goals) to keep back for the next generation.

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