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I'm trying to figure out if I've got 1.1 flavixargus'. They are about 6 months old, so I don't know how accurate it will be, but I'm going to try to sex them, but have never attempted it before on any monitor as I have never had the need to be sure before. How should I go about popping the hemipene? Or is there another method? I had a blackthroat that would always evert its hemipene, so I'm pretty sure I know what it looks like, but then I've heard females can evert one too!!??
Thanks in advance to all who reply!!!

Tim

If you've never sexed a monitor before then your in for a long haul my friend. Best way would be to look at known animals like ones others have that they know the sex of and compare the males and females. Learn the difference between hemipenes and hemiclitoris. Or have someone who is experienced help you out.

Yes, both males and females can evert that has been said time in and time out. There are differences between the two (i.e. size, structure, and texture).

Good luck my friend

np

Always a laugh BRG!!!

I think i need more sleep

I was talking about the differences between males and females as in the males head size, neck size, body size, hemipenes are longer and thicker then a female hemiclitoris.

The gouldi complex is fairly easy to sex just by looking at them.

i will try to demonstrate through pics:

this is a male argus, the second will be a female goulds/flavi

i have both flavi argus crosses, argus and goulds flavi

Man, you really have to teach me how you can sex them so well. I keep and breed(for many generations) lots of monitors from the gouldi complex and I surely have my problems with some young ones. You know, kinda like the age of the ones Timbo is asking about. Throw me a bone here, surely you can teach me how to sex them so well. You said its easy. I know about old adults, what about these young ones?

I am curious, how often are you wrong? say when sexing 50 teenage Gouldi complex monitors? Thanks for the help. F

You seem to be all upset. You seem to think that its not ok for someone to say ANYTHING about monitors without your approval. Don't you want people to learn, and to listen to the monitors, but you keep butting in. Andrew was SHOWING PICTURES, and this still isn't good enough.

Why is it that we have to keep 50 'teenage' monitors to know anything? Seems rather stupid to try to keep 50 monitors at all. I'll keep my day job.

Then again, I suppose I would be awefully defensive if monitors WERE my day job.

Btw, I listened to hobbes, she tells me she likes mice, and hissers, and wishes I'd give her more dirt.

Oscar

Haven't you said in the past that its not uncommon for these monitors to be breeding by 6-8 months(if raised in optimal conditions)?? Do they not then show sexual characteristics?
I have not had experience with this complex, but only know from what Ive read. Am I way off here?

-Michelle

because they are just easy to tell. Kind of like Nile Monitors, you can just look at the bastards even at a few months old (if raised right) and you can say, hey that is a female or that is a male.

I don't know, I haven't been wrong yet, maybe I will be next week

hahaha

I can look at my raise up argus and say, hey that is a male because even if he is only 2 feet he has a bulge and a thick neck, not a long skinny neck and skinny around the tail bone, but thick. i can look at the little female goulds cross thats a little smaller and say, hey thats a female because she is the opposite of him and she looks a lot like my female flavi cross and my female argus.

but you are right you are one upping me on this because you have more monitors, but it doesn't mean i am wrong.

andrew

There are subtle head and tail shape differences that I can help you with if you post recent pics, or I can explain them via e mail.
You can actually hurt your monitor trying to pop it if you don't know how to do it properly. We all have to start somewhere, just understand it's not without risk.

Good Luck

female goulds cross:

female argus