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what is up with these ghost rainbows?

atherisquamigera Apr 08, 2007 09:19 PM

I have seen thekill's ghost rainbows in the gallery for a long time now, but haven't seen anything in the classifieds or on the forums, he says they are only availble at bodacious boas, but i can't find any websites with anything even remotely resembling that name that doesn't sell scarves. does anyone know anything about this guy or his ghosts? I (and probably everyone here) would love to get my hands on one. check it out if you haven't already. http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/index.php?photo=211352
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-Jasmine

1.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boas
(Mercutio and Kajika)

Replies (47)

coluberking25 Apr 08, 2007 10:35 PM

I've seen thekill's ghosts CRBs.

All I know is that they are one of many reasons that CRBs are better than BRBs lol.

Seriously....ghost rainbows aren't all that common to come across. Maybe the "dealer" does not have enough boas to sell..or might just be making more ghosts before he starts selling them.

I hate to say...but it's also POSSIBLE that thekill could have made up the dealer so he can be the only one that can obtain them, breed them, sell them, and make money and recieve credit for breeding them.

Oh, and if you're STILL not convinced that CRBs are the better of the two...maybe I can do some convincing lol.

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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

sean1976 Apr 09, 2007 12:06 AM

Are there any lines of CRB that maintain pattern as adults?

coluberking25 Apr 09, 2007 07:50 AM

No....

Pattern doesn't matter. A snake can be beautiful without patterns. Other than CRBs, other popular and beautiful patternless snakes include Green Tree Pythons, Mexican Black Kingsnakes, black racers(I'm coluberking, I HAVE to throw them in!), green snakes, black rats, yellow rats, Glades rats,....I think you get my drift.

....but which has more morphs out there? I believe CRBs have more. Right now I think there are TWO albino forms(and the BRB has how many? one or none right?) and the ghosts and I think, but am not sure, that there are leucistics out there. I've seen adults with large patches of white(I think they're piebald but I'm not positive), which are rather ugly in my opinion(sorry CRBs!) but hey, a morph's a morph.

BRBs are the most beautiful snakes in the world....but they don't come close to beating the CRB as the better pet of the two! Muahahahahaha!

PS-In all honesty, both are very very very very cool. I just like having this argument lol.

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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

strictly4fun Apr 09, 2007 11:52 AM

which morph is tending to get your attention Scott from the crb's? I like the t-neg a lot more than the t-pos (same thing with the bci's too) so will a morph purchase be in the near future (2 years or so) or are you gonna stay with the normals a little longer but understand if Rochelle uuuuhhhhhh (clearing the throat) I mean Rocky needs a mate.
Bob

coluberking25 Apr 09, 2007 03:42 PM

Bob,

I planned on sticking with normals for now. CRB morphs are just way too expensive right now. I think all the morphs I've seen have been in the 4 figures at the lowest. Considering I am in need of a job...the only way I can get a CRB is if I move to Florida and hope someone is stupid enough to release their t pos albino into the wild and hope it comes into my yard.
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

strictly4fun Apr 09, 2007 09:31 PM

I don't care for the t-pos albinos much at all but Rocky looks like a richly colored one on steroids I really like the t-neg albino with the yellows and you can see the pattern and it just looks cooler to look at. I don't know about rainbow boas but the t-pos bci (vpi) tends to lose that vibrant color after they are a couple of years older and it goes duller, I'm almost positive on that so maybe the same thing with the rainbows.
Bob

sean1976 Apr 10, 2007 12:42 AM

I wasn't saying that a snake needs pattern to be cool, I was just asking if there were CRB's that did not have significant pattern loss.

I have nothing against patternless snakes (currently setting up bloodred morph trio and after the initial trio of thayeri I am setting up I plan on working with the melanistic phase thayeri). I ask because my prefference in rainbow boas is for high contrast and prefferably bright orange and or red. Even among BRB's, while I like all BRB's, the ones I really like are high contrast with bright orange saddles. Once I have the room I am also considering other varieties of rainbow if they keep distinctive pattern. I just don't have the room/resources to be able to keep all the varieties so I have to be picky lol.

CRB's are great snakes just from what I understand of their adult appearance they are not my preffered variety.

Sean.

PS if I had unlimited resources including space I would keep an ungodly number of snakes including CRB's

coluberking25 Apr 10, 2007 02:33 PM

...lol sorry I went berserk lol.

Look at thekill's ghosts...you can easily see the pattern on them. And I think one of the albinos keeps its pattern.
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

sean1976 Apr 10, 2007 07:58 PM

Yeah I'll have to check em out. To give you an idea of my prefferences, within BRB's, I'll post a couple pics of the better looking of my current pair of BRB's.

This ones name is Navel. I would even prefer a brighter orange on the blotches and more red in the background but of my current stock Navel is my favorite.

triniian Apr 09, 2007 12:10 AM

I love a strong opinion, but I also enjoy when the majority rules.

BRB's are by far and away the best there are, the best there ever were and the best there ever will be.

Who's with me?

Rocky's still a beaut - just imagine him in a nice dark red with some bright white crescents!

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-Iman

1.1 BRBs (Ying and Yang)
1.1 JCPs (Striker and Sheila)
0.0.2 BPs (Spot and Speck)
5.5 Fish (Insert your favorite names here)
1.0 Miniature Daschund (Rue)

Loving to Learn
Learning to Help
Helping to Love

Stimulate debates, stifle arguments.
Please be nice always.

coluberking25 Apr 09, 2007 08:05 AM

...and if you look at other photos of him...you can see he develops white on his sides at night that from "crest-like" patterns.

BRBs maybe more popular...but the CRBs are the easier ones to keep! More tolerant of lower humidity levels, hardy nature, the beauty of it's simple coloring are all benefactors that make the CRB an ideal candidate for a herp-keeper's first rainbow boa.

Isn't debating fun? lol

By the way here is a pic showing his "crescent-like" night patterns

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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

triniian Apr 09, 2007 06:00 PM

See what you got yourself into? Part of the beauty of being in a free country.

All I can say is...

Step away from the Dark Side ~ May the force (of BRB's) be with you!
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-Iman

1.1 BRBs (Ying and Yang)
1.1 JCPs (Striker and Sheila)
0.0.2 BPs (Spot and Speck)
5.5 Fish (Insert your favorite names here)
1.0 Miniature Daschund (Rue)

Loving to Learn
Learning to Help
Helping to Love

Stimulate debates, stifle arguments.
Please be nice always.

flavor Apr 09, 2007 09:13 AM

You seem like a great guy and all but you really need to be set straight on this.

Yes, BRBs have fewer morphs. But, we have hypos man!

BRBs are stronger and faster. They are more intelligent than CRBs (I've caught them solving differential equations), and they can breathe fire.

Plus, BRBs appeal to a better class of people.

Just stop fighting it and join us. There will always be a place for Rocky...in the cage under your brand new BRB!
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Mike Lockwood
www.tooscaley.com

coluberking25 Apr 09, 2007 09:40 AM

...you're making this sound like kids with Pokemon(ahhhh the good old days).

Rocky has solved the square root of -1. He can fly and os bulletproof.

He was taught everything he knows by Chuch Norris...and as everybody knows...it's best NOT to mess with Chuck Norris or any of his colleagues. That dude can seriously mess people up, considering his tears can cure cancer(too bad Chuck Norris never cries).
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

coluberking25 Apr 09, 2007 09:41 AM

"Is bulletproof" not os lol
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

strictly4fun Apr 09, 2007 11:46 AM

Scott u crazy I like Chuck but man he is a country boy at heart and rides them damn horses so he is a bad a-- cowboy but I tend to like the Steven Seagal break your damn arm, or Wesley Snipes (I like him a lot for some reason) and of course Jet Li who needs no introduction. But like Mike said, the BRB's are stronger and faster so you can have Chuck Norris and I'll take the real MEN haha lol
Bob

coluberking25 Apr 09, 2007 03:51 PM

Chuck Norris is beyond manly....he can chuck babies at the sun(if you have NO idea what I mean...google Chuck Norris jokes)
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

strictly4fun Apr 09, 2007 11:39 AM

but I would have told Scott to put Rocky in the closet until feeding time instead of UNDER his new BRB. He can't possibly look at both a crb & BRB together so close to one another cuz Rocky or Rochelle will see the way he looks at that BRAZILIAN and clearly notice the lust in his eyes.

On another note Mike I wish the best for Ann's pregnancy for you and I got to hold my first green tree python yesterday, she was about 5-6 foot and with the some scales that looked whiter than Erik Estrada's teeth (Poncho from cops cuz I watched with my dad growing up) and that was awesome.
Bob

flavor Apr 09, 2007 01:05 PM

Bob, Green Tree Pythons are even more addicting than Brazilians. When you were holding it, did you notice how soft the scales felt? There's just nothing else like them in the snake world. Another snake that's BETTER THAN CRBS!
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Mike Lockwood
www.tooscaley.com

coluberking25 Apr 09, 2007 03:34 PM

Chuck Norris is after you
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

strictly4fun Apr 09, 2007 03:37 PM

and I did notice that. My friend Paul who breeds tiger retics traded a couple for some green tree pythons and they are very very very soft. It even felt better than a baby brb with very high humidity right after a shed but more velvety feeling kinda (make sense?). I have always been intrigued by these beauties cuz the tree boas look like the head of a ball which just so happens to be the ugliest snake on earth. I can't wait to get one of those and Paul tried to get some eggs from her this season but I guess there is always next season. But I really can't wait to raise one of his tigers cuz they are so irridescent and much prettier than crb's too (Scott sorry but they really are) I really enjoy the bulges on the back of the head cuz it looks very masculine too.
Bob

coluberking25 Apr 09, 2007 03:49 PM

....but are much less impractical to keep as pets, let alone breed them. A retic is a retic They just get too big(I don't care about dwarves) and are too agressive in general. By breeding them people only encourage that they be kept as pets.

I am strongly against the keeping of Burmese pythons(they're only pretty when they're young and the albinos are annoying because they're everywhere), African rock pythons(oh yea let me go down to my local pet store and buy my big guy here some impala), retics(LONGEST snake in the world), and anacondas(HEAVIEST snake in the world) and any other very very large snakes.
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

strictly4fun Apr 09, 2007 04:14 PM

docile snake besides bci and bcc's. Colubrids and balls don't count cuz they are not real snakes but if you ever have the chance to handle a retic I promise you that you immediately change your mind. These were the first snakes I was ever around and they are safe enough to have around kids and everything and just wait til you see the irridescence. I am going over there in a little while to fix an electrical problem so I'll try hard to get a pic. If you get males then you are good on size. My friend Paul breeds retics but not like you think, when most people are trying to breed snakes they get them as big as possible to maximize profit and of course they will not live as long so we have the concept of treating them like pets not breeders. His 6 foot male is about an inch and a quarter thick, I'll bet $10,000 dollars Rocky is girthier than this male. There is nothing pretty about a fat snake with a little head and fat a-- body making it looking like a damn anaconda, I'm sorry if offended anybody but that is just my opinion. Scott you have to figure that most breeders never take their animals out of their cages other than a weight check, vet visit or something that is mandatory cuz they are never treated like pets but Dave takes so many damn pics that his know they are special
Bob

rainbowsrus Apr 09, 2007 04:25 PM

LOL, seems like at a minimum, every time they shed I've got them out for pics. And with breedoing season, gotta get pics of the gravid females and of course lots of pics when they have their babies. Of course, all the babies are so cute, will need to take pics of them.

All I can really say is I am WAY glad digital "film" is "re-usable". $hit, if I was loading 35mm film for all the pics I take, I'd have maybe a fourth of the collection, the rest would have been spent on film and processing.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
19.29 BRB
13.18 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

coluberking25 Apr 09, 2007 04:44 PM

I don't care how docile it is. A retic is a retic. I don't like them being kept as pets...I don't care if it's a dwarf or not.

And how can you say boas with big bodies and small heads aren't pretty? Rocky has that type of build and you are always drooling over my photos! lol
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

flavor Apr 09, 2007 05:49 PM

Scott, I think we've found something we agree on. Not that I'm hating on people who keep big snakes. Many people do it and do it well. But for the general population, they seem to be an impractical pet. Much the way iguanas are. It's sad that they're produced in great numbers and then sold off so cheaply. Anybody with 50.00 in their pocket can afford to take one home and mistreat the thing until it gets so big they can't handle it anymore and then need to release it. The store wher I used to work would take in Boas, Igs, and burms as donations and try to get good homes for them. There are so many unwanted animals now that they can't do that. Now, if a person wants to unload a boa, ig or burm, they have to pay the store to take them (no joke).

Those tiger retics are sweet looking though. No doubt.
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Mike Lockwood
www.tooscaley.com

rainbowsrus Apr 09, 2007 10:50 AM

CRB's better then BRB's, Hah!!

Just a few reasons BRB's are better, many more where these came from.....








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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
19.29 BRB
13.18 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

coluberking25 Apr 09, 2007 11:02 AM

....just kidding. Very gorgeous snakes! I love that one that's red with white crescents! Tell us about him/her Dave...pretty please???(makes sad puppy face lol)

BRBs may look prettier...but CRBs are easier to keep! Hardy nature and a tolerance of low humidity(which may be a common mistake of first time rainbow keepers) make the CRB the ideal candidate for first time rainbow keepers!

PS-CRBs still have more morphs....hehehe
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

rainbowsrus Apr 09, 2007 12:23 PM

LOL, I do "adjust" the pics with Picassa, Mostly crop auto color balance and resize but no significant changes, just trying to get them to be accurate. So hard when it looks different depending on your display.

The one with white crescents is a morph, yes Scott, there are morphs in BRB's. She's a Anery from Brian Sharp. I am really impressed with how she has held her color. I had heard (and seen others) that yellowed out by this time. Still though, I figured with all I have, I should really have the available morphs as well. I have one more on order from Brian, A male Anery from this years production. That male will allow me to outcross to several 100% unrelated females.

Anery from Brian Sharp "Tawney"

Het Anery "Dusty"

together:

They are extra hard to capture in an image. If you get one looking close, the other is off and vice versa.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
19.29 BRB
13.18 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

FRoberts Apr 09, 2007 01:41 PM

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Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

FRoberts Apr 09, 2007 11:05 AM

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Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

strictly4fun Apr 09, 2007 11:31 AM

please stop throwing that salt on my wounds man I love those pics so much but I don't know if you ran out last time but I wanted my Rainbow Soup to go
Bob

rainbowsrus Apr 09, 2007 12:28 PM

Take ONE look and then step aside!!



NEXT!!

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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
19.29 BRB
13.18 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

strictly4fun Apr 09, 2007 12:34 PM

may I have another. Damn Dave check out the color of Dottie in the last pic (her right?), her color is looking great. After that pic that makes me want to get my next het hypo female from Mike cuz he has the hypo thing down and it's only gonnna get better.
Bob

rainbowsrus Apr 09, 2007 12:42 PM

LOL, I check out her color every day (and all the reast of the clan for that matter. Duh, I love them.

Glad I save some details in my spreadsheet, here's what I have on that shot:

First up is a group shot. In it are two Hypo's Dottie is more orange and Mickey is mostly toward the right, you can see both have fantastic crescents. Also in there are three normals ( how can I call my holdbacks normals?) towards the left is BO-M5-08(Hook), one of my bullseyes, in the middle is SA-PO-01(Amber), she has no crescents at all and towards the right is BU-M5-16 (Rose), she's one of my holdback females. I love this shot as it shows a LOT of variety in colors/patterns.

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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
19.29 BRB
13.18 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

FRoberts Apr 09, 2007 01:36 PM

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Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

atherisquamigera Apr 09, 2007 05:27 PM

ok so maybe that is brian sharp's animal but it is still beyond this world! I will buy one immediatly! i jsut checked his website and hot damn! but about the real topic at hand here, CRB or BRB, CRBs have lame markings, no color and ugly heads! seriously they have a weird double chin thing that i haven't seen in any brb pics. And another thing is that there is nothing wrong with burms!!! My first pet snake ever was a baby female burm named Akina. I have never met anything else like her, she loved flowers, she actually would not eat if she didnt have live flowers in her cage(i tried everything in the book). and she would curl up in them and smell them for hours. she loved to fall asleep in my lap while i read, and she wasnt headshy or scared of people or anything she was just curious. and she never used any hide box or tried to hide from me, she would just follow me around the cage whenever i was in the room. Her personality is what really got me hooked on snakes. Sadly one day she got inclusion body disease and later she bit herself to death. I have tried to replace her ever since then by buying differnt burms, but it never is what i am looking for so i resell them. I gave up on burms when i saw my first brb, but i still hope to find another Akina. This is me with Zeus, he was my third attempt, i sold him to a teacher in TN because he said his friend had a rabbit farm (he sent me pics of zeus eating rabbits and zeus was just stoked you could tell) i figured that would be the best home.

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-Jasmine

1.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boas
(Mercutio and Kajika)

rainbowsrus Apr 09, 2007 05:33 PM

If you're serious, contact him now and get on the "list" and start saving, they're not cheap, actually downright expensive.

BTW, you'll be in line behind me, I get my pick of the litter this year....at the top of the list!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
20.28 BRB
13.18 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

atherisquamigera Apr 09, 2007 06:03 PM

by the way, i heard all you people saying that people mistreat their burms, and i would like to say that every burm that i have owned has been pampered, i never buy a snake if i can't afford to make a large enough enclosure or cant afford the food, or if i dont have time to handle it as much as i would a cat or dog. i resold the others to good homes (i resold them because i was looking for another Akina, not some vicious monster, see previous post) (not breeders, and i made them tell me how to take care of a burm, and had them send me pics of their enclosure, and had them tell me how they planned on being able to feed the thing, and what they were going to do when it got 20 ft) so yes many people mistreat their burms, but i wanted it to be clear that i did not.
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-Jasmine

1.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boas
(Mercutio and Kajika)

triniian Apr 09, 2007 06:36 PM

Jasmine, no need to be on the defensive! Many of us own several species of snakes.

I don't recall anyone ever saying that YOU mistreat burms. However, in general it is widely known that Burms are the most likely of any snake to suffer at the fingertips of inexperienced handlers.

At the pet store an 18" burm looks oh so cute and cuddly... then 1 year later - 6ft of not so cute any more.

Most others species are so small as newborns and newcomers look at them as "Nah, too small for me".

You sure did have nice little Burm in your pics! Gotta hand it to ya, you gots more guts than me. Snakes that size are too much for me. I cap myself out at the RTB.

Now a little OT....

I am actually working with my local pet store to stop carrying Burms, Retics and African Rock Pythons and let them order for customers upon request. They keep Corns, RTBs, BPs, Burms, Retics and African Rocks. Not the best selection and obviously the Burms stick out. Only once they had a BRB. However, the owner is awesome, the store is clean and they definitely care about the animals. I am seeing if I can get them to carry BRBs and JCP in lieu of the others.

Fingers crossed!
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-Iman

1.1 BRBs (Ying and Yang)
1.1 JCPs (Striker and Sheila)
0.0.2 BPs (Spot and Speck)
5.5 Fish (Insert your favorite names here)
1.0 Miniature Daschund (Rue)

Loving to Learn
Learning to Help
Helping to Love

Stimulate debates, stifle arguments.
Please be nice always.

atherisquamigera Apr 09, 2007 05:11 PM

that silver brb is even more beautiful than a varible bush viper nad for me that is the highest compliment in the world! when will u produce those?????? I WANT ONE!!!!!!!!!! I would probably be in debt for the rest of my life but its just so damn pretty!
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-Jasmine

1.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boas
(Mercutio and Kajika)

rainbowsrus Apr 09, 2007 05:14 PM

That's an anery, mine are 2006's and should start production in 2009. She is stunning, and excet]ptionally stunning for an anery, definately the bloodline to work with!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
19.29 BRB
13.18 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

atherisquamigera Apr 09, 2007 05:31 PM

well put me on a waiting list if the price will be any less than brian's cuz rent and snakes are about all i can afford until i graduate high school.
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-Jasmine

1.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boas
(Mercutio and Kajika)

rainbowsrus Apr 09, 2007 05:35 PM

LOL, just replied to your post higher up. I expect by the time I start producing them the price will come down some. If you're serious about getting on the list, email me and I'll add you to it.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
20.28 BRB
13.18 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

triniian Apr 09, 2007 06:23 PM

Who'da a thought, after an army of us trying, Scott is still lingering on the dark side.

And all the while, Dave's BRB's(superior to any CRB - I know this for fact, my BRBs are of Dave's Stock) are saying "Leave me the heck alone! How many dang pictures are you gonna shoot!"

Because we all know, the first 10 shots never come out right - thus Dave must have taken about 1000 pics to get those screamers he is showing off.

Dave - you're snakes rule.

Scott - CRBs are cool. Infact, before BRB's, I too was a proud owner of the "CRB". After some time, you'll realize they're about the equivalent of a corn snake. Easy to get, easy to breed, look like everything else.

Other equations that may help you see the light!

BRB = Ferrari
CRB = Hyundai

BRB = Stealth Bomber
CRB = Single Prop Cesna

BRB = Poison Dart Frog
CRB = Bullfrog

BRB = Diamond
CRB = Zirconium

BRB = $100 Bill
CRB = $1 Bill

BRB = Orchid
CRB = Grass

BRB = US Army
CRB = Chuck Norris

BRB = Green Tree Python
CRB = Amazon Tree Boa

BRB = Cell Phone
CRB = Rotary Phone

BRB = 18v Drill
CRB = Screwdriver

Get the picture? Com'on Scott - see the light!

Scott, you know this is all in good fun!
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-Iman

1.1 BRBs (Ying and Yang)
1.1 JCPs (Striker and Sheila)
0.0.2 BPs (Spot and Speck)
5.5 Fish (Insert your favorite names here)
1.0 Miniature Daschund (Rue)

Loving to Learn
Learning to Help
Helping to Love

Stimulate debates, stifle arguments.
Please be nice always.

coluberking25 Apr 10, 2007 02:23 PM

CRB=Chuck Norris.

Chuck Norris can beat the whole US Army on his own....geez he throws babies at the sun even.

Chuck Norris isn't getting shot at...the US Army is

Bullfrogs can eat mice...go to Jamie Roth's site and see the vid
Note Jamie doesn't have a poison frog eating any mice.

1 Bullfrog=50 poison darts in the stomach(assuming they're CB)

Ghost CRB=well over $1000
Ghost BRB=um....um....oh wait they don't exist...

Albino CRB=$$$$, 2 types
Albino BRB=????, no types or just one? and they aren't being sold yet if they are I think...

GTPs and ATBs are both very popular and both very nippy.

You say CRBs are easy to breed. Aren't they easier to breed than BRBs? And doesn't that mean there could be more of them in the market than BRBs, therefore resulting in more money made by selling CRBs?

I can't look into the light....Jeff told me a long time ago that light stresses rainbows out.
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

coluberking25 Apr 10, 2007 02:26 PM

I know this is all in good fun. I enjoy this alot.

I really do think BRBs are the prettiest snakes in the world. Just because I don't have one and my rep as the CRB-crazed person of the forum is why I strongly urge the keeping of them...other than the fact that I get EXTREMELY bored not being able to help out because almost NO ONE here has CRBs.

They're hardly like corns...bigger, more exotic, iridescence, less commonly seen in the trade...haha
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

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