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Could this mean gravid? or no?

beardie_br0z Aug 13, 2003 02:31 PM

My 2 beardies mated about 2 weeks ago..ive got the exact date on calendar..just not in front of me. The female wasnt the biggest eater then but now shes eating like a pig. I thought hey..lets weigh her to see her weight gain. when she was bred she was 323 and now she is 360 in 2 weeks. Could that mean she is ovulating and is gravid or she would have gained much more weight if she was gravid? Please help me first time breeder lol

Thanks,
Joey

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Joey And His Bro. , Beardie Br0thaz

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reiko Aug 13, 2003 02:37 PM

it could be a sign that she is, be sure she is being supplemented with a good calcium powder and eating greens high in calcium. just a note, a dragon that doesnt eat well probably should not be bred, a female should be very healthy eating well and a good weight before being considered for breeding, at least 350 grams, but i would say 400 grams is a better weight for a breeding female.

>>My 2 beardies mated about 2 weeks ago..ive got the exact date on calendar..just not in front of me. The female wasnt the biggest eater then but now shes eating like a pig. I thought hey..lets weigh her to see her weight gain. when she was bred she was 323 and now she is 360 in 2 weeks. Could that mean she is ovulating and is gravid or she would have gained much more weight if she was gravid? Please help me first time breeder lol
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>>Thanks,
>>Joey
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>> Joey And His Bro. , Beardie Br0thaz
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reiko
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BeginnersBasics Aug 13, 2003 02:39 PM

she very well could be gravid. If she has changed her eating habits and gained weight in as little as two weeks, those are both good signs.

Good luck to you!

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Lisa
www.beginnersbasics.com

Mattman Aug 13, 2003 03:40 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it you who asked me if they were OK to breed about 3 weeks ago? I had you give me their weights, and lengths, and age. I thought at that time I told you she needed to put on more weight, about 100 grams more weight to be safe, cause breeding under 400 for some dragons could be dangerous. I told you I personally would get my females above 550 grams just to be extra safe (mine are large and this is easy for me), but with some females small frames 425-450 could do for a smaller adult female say 16 inches long, and extra healthy all year long. Well, I see you didn't get any other opinions you went ahead and stuck them together, and now have a 350 gram dragon two weeks gravid. I also told you if you were to put them together do not leave them alone!! Cause the female can get hurt cause males are aggressive when it comes to breeding. I went back and checked the archives to find out you left the male and female alone. You came down stairs and caught the male attacking your female with her arms flailing around. I warned you she might double clutch and this is why the extra weight is good. After the first clutch is laid some females cannot put on the needed weight, and store the needed nutrients before the next is ready to be laid. So she's just around 355 now gravid, she will lay, drain herself of calcium, and nutrients and be expected to put on weight and store nutrients for the next clutch she will lay in 3 weeks. You see there is just not enough time between laying. If I was you I would purchase some silk, Goliath, and wax worms and extra supplement her with calcium and d3, and a multi vitamin, and try your hardest to add extra weight and nutrients to her diet before laying. When she gets close to the time to lay, not all but most will stop eating a week before. This is even lessening the time you have to get her nutrient levels up. Why didn't you wait for a more experienced breeder back then when I answered you, and asked you to get another opinion from an experienced breeder before you bred, because I felt your female was under weight to breed to the best of her ability? Are you one of those people who will ask the same questions over and over and just wait for someone to say it's OK? Sorry if this offends you, but you ask the same questions over, and over again and seems like you wait for someone to tell you what you want to hear. Anyway I truly wish you luck with this. I just hope you would realize that there are people here looking out for the dragons health number 1 and not what's in your best interest. We do care, and want to help by telling you to do the right thing. I wish you would have asked for a second opinion about her weight like I asked you too. Now it's to late and all you can do is worry and well. that just sucks. GTood Luck I hope it works out for you. I hope you have everything your going to need for 60 plus hatchlings.
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Mystical Dragons

dragonsbynature Aug 13, 2003 04:15 PM

Better keep a real close eye on her.. if she was a picky eater and was bred to soon, and does not have proper weight and health... she may become egg bound. If she is low on calcium and other nutrients, she may not be able to pass the eggs properly through her system... this could leave to them ruptering inside her and cause death very easily.

This is not a post meant to scare or take it to an extreme, this is a very real possibility with a weak non-aggressive eater. Supplement her as much as you can and try cuttle bone shavings on her greens. Keep an eye on her and if she starts to show signs of lethargicness, no energy, and listless... you better get her to the vet immediately to surgically remove those eggs or she will not surive.

Hope she is a strong dragon.. she's going to need to be.

brandon
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Dragons by Nature

BeginnersBasics Aug 13, 2003 04:24 PM

UGH! Didn't realize this was the same guy that posted that a while back. Glad you caught it.. I would take extra special care of that little lady if I were you!

>>Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it you who asked me if they were OK to breed about 3 weeks ago? I had you give me their weights, and lengths, and age. I thought at that time I told you she needed to put on more weight, about 100 grams more weight to be safe, cause breeding under 400 for some dragons could be dangerous. I told you I personally would get my females above 550 grams just to be extra safe (mine are large and this is easy for me), but with some females small frames 425-450 could do for a smaller adult female say 16 inches long, and extra healthy all year long. Well, I see you didn't get any other opinions you went ahead and stuck them together, and now have a 350 gram dragon two weeks gravid. I also told you if you were to put them together do not leave them alone!! Cause the female can get hurt cause males are aggressive when it comes to breeding. I went back and checked the archives to find out you left the male and female alone. You came down stairs and caught the male attacking your female with her arms flailing around. I warned you she might double clutch and this is why the extra weight is good. After the first clutch is laid some females cannot put on the needed weight, and store the needed nutrients before the next is ready to be laid. So she's just around 355 now gravid, she will lay, drain herself of calcium, and nutrients and be expected to put on weight and store nutrients for the next clutch she will lay in 3 weeks. You see there is just not enough time between laying. If I was you I would purchase some silk, Goliath, and wax worms and extra supplement her with calcium and d3, and a multi vitamin, and try your hardest to add extra weight and nutrients to her diet before laying. When she gets close to the time to lay, not all but most will stop eating a week before. This is even lessening the time you have to get her nutrient levels up. Why didn't you wait for a more experienced breeder back then when I answered you, and asked you to get another opinion from an experienced breeder before you bred, because I felt your female was under weight to breed to the best of her ability? Are you one of those people who will ask the same questions over and over and just wait for someone to say it's OK? Sorry if this offends you, but you ask the same questions over, and over again and seems like you wait for someone to tell you what you want to hear. Anyway I truly wish you luck with this. I just hope you would realize that there are people here looking out for the dragons health number 1 and not what's in your best interest. We do care, and want to help by telling you to do the right thing. I wish you would have asked for a second opinion about her weight like I asked you too. Now it's to late and all you can do is worry and well. that just sucks. GTood Luck I hope it works out for you. I hope you have everything your going to need for 60 plus hatchlings.
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>>Mystical Dragons
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Lisa
www.beginnersbasics.com

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