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AFRICAN SOFT FUR RATS?

ballfreak Apr 09, 2007 07:29 PM

has anyone used them for balls that were not feeding and had better luck with them? thanks?

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Twest Apr 09, 2007 09:05 PM

How could you feed these to anything?
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ballfreak Apr 09, 2007 09:12 PM

i said that before i read your post. they are really cute. are they feeders? i take it they are.

Twest Apr 09, 2007 09:20 PM

They are "Cute" but mean as all get up... They don't hesitate to bite, and draw blood... I have been told they don't tame at all... As of right now I have no plans to feed them to any of my Ball Pythons. I do plan on feeding them for my kingsnakes in the future, weaned ASF are the size of an adult mouse!!
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Ball Pythons Python regius
Dumeril's Boas Boa dumerili
European legless Lizard Ophisaurus apodus
Pueblan Milksnake Lampropeltis Triangulum Campbelli
California Kingsnake Lampropeltis getulus californiae
Bearded Dragons Pogona Vitticeps
Leopard Geckos Eublepharis Macularis
Brazilian Rainbow Boas Epicrates cenchria cenchria
Snapping Turtles Chelydra serpentina
Alligator Snapper Macrochelys temminckii
American Bullfrog Rana catesbieana
Rats
Mice
Super Worms
Meal Worms

ballfreak Apr 09, 2007 09:24 PM

being that there mean wouldnt that make them more volnerable to biting snakes? i have heard they are very mean. thanks.

Twest Apr 09, 2007 09:54 PM

The majority of my adult Ball Pythons eat FT anyway, and ALL of my Kings and Milks eat FT. You are right though I would be very cautious when feeding them live to anything. Good point.

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T. West
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Ball Pythons Python regius
Dumeril's Boas Boa dumerili
European legless Lizard Ophisaurus apodus
Pueblan Milksnake Lampropeltis Triangulum Campbelli
California Kingsnake Lampropeltis getulus californiae
Bearded Dragons Pogona Vitticeps
Leopard Geckos Eublepharis Macularis
Brazilian Rainbow Boas Epicrates cenchria cenchria
Snapping Turtles Chelydra serpentina
Alligator Snapper Macrochelys temminckii
American Bullfrog Rana catesbieana
Rats
Mice
Super Worms
Meal Worms

Amelia Apr 10, 2007 07:23 PM

I got 2.6 of the buggers early last month, and I do intend on using them as feeders, honestly I can handle mine and interact with them without a problem. I know people who have nice ones like mine seem to be, and others who have ones that are just geared up to take a nip at you whenever they can. From those I have talked to that have used them so far they work well, so I will see how that goes all in due time.
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BALDBIKER Apr 10, 2007 04:08 PM

OPEN CAGE AND THROW THEM IN.

ballzy Apr 10, 2007 01:00 AM

I would only use them as a last resort myself. I have heard they are biters also so you should be concerned about that as well as the fact that if you sell your snakes, most people will not be able to find african rats locally. That wouldn't be good for the snakes or the new owners since they would probably refuse normal rats and go off feed for a very long time.

414reptiles Apr 10, 2007 11:52 AM

i traded a bunch of my surplus rats for a pair of ASFR so i can get them breeding for future rehabs...(most likely WC balls) but never had the need to used them... they populate quick and will bite you if they get a chance! They populated so quick i ended up freezing all but two and i think my male isnt fertile anymore! i feel like a goof but i dont really have any use for them anyways
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morphed Apr 10, 2007 12:57 PM

We have a good size colony of ASFR , The mothers are a bit nippy when they have babies, but i have never thought them to be "mean" we have close to about 200 or so right now and for the most part they are not bad for biting, although i am talking about our personal experience over the past year. I have used them for many stubborn feeders and they have worked 9 times out of 10, we have fed them to our snakes live and never once have had any ill effects, granted i wouldnt recomend keeping them in over night with a snake, but i wouldnt recommend that for any rodent. Also out of all of our ASFR feeders only one refused any oher food, normally once they start on ASFR they can be switched very easily. When rat production is down and we have a few extra snakes to feed ill feed them the ASFR but they always take domestic rats the following week. I have never had any problems feeding or raising ASFR but then like i said this is only our experience over the past year with them, other breeders may have other opinions
Kim
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ballfreak Apr 10, 2007 08:09 PM

mine have been off feed so i was thinking about getting them. i have one snake that boxes the rats! he always hits at least three times before he gets his target and sometimes he just does that im thinking cause he is not interested in eating? do you think that i should try these since my snakes have been off feed for months? i hear they dont smell as much as rats? im just concerned cause i hear they love to bite and my snakes love smelling and sometimes kissing there prey. thanks for all posts.

johnavilla Apr 11, 2007 09:31 AM

I'd say you should just leave them alone for a bit. You have been posting with this problem pretty regularly so I can only assume that you are trying to feed them at least weekly. I know that this time of year can be very frustrating with balls when one is just starting out but really it isn't a problem for them to go a few months or even half a year without eating. I have a snake that goes six months in the winter with no ill effects and another who likes to take month long fasts every couple of months over the course of the year. If the snakes were eating previously than don't go mucking around with new food items, just keep offering what they are used to and wait. The best thing to do now is start offering food ever second week or so and just be patiant. Tosha (if i remember correctly) had to wait until July one year for one of hers to resume feading.
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TenorGoddess Apr 18, 2007 04:11 PM

Does anyone know where I can get a few of these ASFR in or near Massachusetts within a 2hr radius?

I'd really like to hear about any for sale to try with my snakes.

Hugs!

Amanda Rose

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