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Let's start off with one of our males:

Moving along to one of our gravid females curled up in a nest box:

Here's another gravid female that hasn't shed yet, but doesn't she look swollen and uncomfortable?

Here's just another female because the photo is handy:

and let's finish it up with what's likely the only albino chocolate emoryi old enough to be gravid in the world:

She's normally a beautiful golden yellow with "neon" pink tones, but she's so swollen with eggs that the yellow has gotten darker and there's a lot of white showing. Hardly ANY white shows when she isn't stretched out of shape by those eggs.

KJ

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KJUN Snakehaven

Sweet! I'm not normally into albinos or corns, but all those snakes pictured are exceptional! Thanx for sharing and best of luck w/ the eggs. Wow! Were the gravid females all paired w/ similar looking albino males?

reako45

>>Sweet! I'm not normally into albinos or corns, but all those snakes pictured are exceptional! Thanx for sharing and best of luck w/ the eggs. Wow! Were the gravid females all paired w/ similar looking albino males?
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>>reako45

One albino female is going to be bred to the albino male. The other two albino females (and the albino chocolate) wewre bred to one of my two males that are double het for albino and chocolate.
KJ
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KJUN Snakehaven

Those are sweet.Can't wait to see hatchling pics.
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"Upon Thy Belly Thou Shalt Go"

Wow! Thanks for showing those, especially the albino chocolate. That is a very interesting snake!

-Toby

Very nice. Good looking snakes! In the close up, you can really see the spots/tipping on the scales. Are the twin spots like that a standard emoryi trait?

>>Very nice. Good looking snakes! In the close up, you can really see the spots/tipping on the scales. Are the twin spots like that a standard emoryi trait?

Thanks! Do you mean the split spots like in this image (repeated image)?

If so, no. Those split blotches are somehoe related to the chocolate mutation. Many het chocolate animals show that trait. Some don't, though! I'm not sure if all of the ones with that look are het chocolate, but i do know I only see them from the chocolate line.

KJ

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KJUN Snakehaven

I meant this one:

The "tipping" (for lack of better word) on the scales.

I ask because I have an albino black rat that I've been suspicious has some emoryi or something blood in him.


There's a close up of him. The tipping seems similar, in how it's two dots on each scale.

Thanks,
Ronnie Nocera

>>I meant this one:
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>>The "tipping" (for lack of better word) on the scales.
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>>I ask because I have an albino black rat that I've been suspicious has some emoryi or something blood in him.
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>>There's a close up of him. The tipping seems similar, in how it's two dots on each scale.
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>>Thanks,
>>Ronnie Nocera

Those are called apical pits. Common in rat snakes of all species, I believe. At least in the NW rats.

-Toby

I've never seen them so defined & bold in anything but emoryi, but, that could have something to do with their background color. I know tipping is common, but I never really noticed that it was two ndividual dots. Always just seem muddy on other snakes. I know none of my corns or Everglades have them visible like that.

thanks,
Ronnie

Ronnie,

I think it usually takes a good camera or photographer, or both to show those. Many of Draybar's photos of his bairdi show well defined apical pits, if you want to see them on snakes other than emoryi. It could be that they are easier to see on certain species of snakes, and you might be right about the background color. You should be able to see them under magification.

-Toby

Great lookin snakes, KJ. I bet that albino/chocolate looks awesome when not showing so much white. Cool snake. Would like to see the babies from her.

Terry

WQW! Those snakes are amazing...makes me want some.lol. Very beautiful. What type of camera do you use?
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Sincerely, Jason
www.NortheastSnakes.com
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>>WQW! Those snakes are amazing...makes me want some.lol. Very beautiful. What type of camera do you use?

Thanks. I've really enjoyed my emoryi! Those were taken with my Olympus Evolt 500 dSLR using the built-in flash (I did have a hand-helf fluorescent light suspended over the snakes, too) and the 50mm F2.0 Macro by Zuiko.

KJ
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KJUN Snakehaven