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"Clear" corn snake

Sharkman20 Apr 12, 2007 04:19 PM

I remember seeing these pictures of this weird corn on cornsnakemorphs.com a while ago and I just found it again. I guess it wound up dying but they were trying to produce another one. Anyone know what ever happened to that? It's definately a cool looking snake. Here's the link since I won't go posting someone else's pictures on here.

http://cornsnakemorphs.com/projects.html

Replies (11)

cochran Apr 12, 2007 04:49 PM

Man!,That's some crazy stuff!It's almost like he has no blood.Thanks for sharing! Jeff

cconstrictors Apr 12, 2007 06:48 PM

That was a few years ago, I far as i know, Sean was unable to reproduce those results.

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Arlon Delorge
Classic Constrictors

xblackheart Apr 12, 2007 08:39 PM

I had never seen this before, but what it reminds me of is the "Lethal White" that is in horses, dogs, other mammals. This is not just an albino, it is cases of albino that carry the genetic defects of recessive genes. The lethel white horses usually die within days.
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www.sneakyserpents.com

"Life is Killing Me"

ChristopherD Apr 13, 2007 07:16 AM

it appears the blood has no pigment,though sustained live while in the egg with hatchlings dying in our atmosphere, not familiar with lethal white but it sounds like your on the right track.Im no doctor but maybe one will chime in .C

qroberts Apr 13, 2007 12:11 PM

The snake could not have survived past the point where it developed a circulatory system in the egg if it had no blood pigment. Blood gets it's color from hemoglobin (the oxygen transport protein). Animals with mutations in all the subunits of hemoglobin abort early in gestation due to tissue hypoxia and death. Thus, although the animal appears to lack blood color, the fact that it is alive is incompatible.

More likely the culprit is one of a number of rare recessive forms of albinism which manifest with neurological and immune dysfunction. This is a result of the origin of melanocytes and the location of pigment synthesizing enzymes and transport molecules on the chromosomes.

Melanocytes are of neural origin and thus problems with melanocyte development can be paired with neural dysfunction. Frequently, albinos have difficulty with vision (pigment related) along with nystagmus (sweeping eye motions) which is caused by a related neural deficit.

Proteins which transport formed pigment share a significant amount in common with the granules used for storing and releasing hydrolytic enzymes (antibacterial, fungal, parasitic) and those necessary to engulf and destroy pathogens intracellularly. Thus mutations in these areas can cause massive immune system deficits in addition to albinism.

Thus it is likely that the animal in question died as a result neurological/immunological causes (e.g neural systems failure or an inability of the host to resist infection).

This is seen in the white animal deaths mentioned above and also in severe, rare forms of human albinism with death occurring in early postnatal life.

rosycorn Apr 14, 2007 07:09 AM

While not commenting on anything about the snake, the cause of death in the lethal white overo syndrome (horses) is colonic agangliosis. When born, there is no innervation to the intestines of any kind. Without that, there can't be any nutrient absorption or anything resembling normal function, so they never have a chance.

And a pic to stay (vaguely) on topic:

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1.0.0 Normal corn snake (Frito)
1.0.0 Creamsicle corn (Tang)
0.1.0 Ghost corn (Raynham)
1.0.0 Bay of LA rosy boa (Rivet)
0.1.0 Cape Gopher (Mole)
0.0.1 African House Snake (Really Lil' Dude)

izora Apr 13, 2007 12:07 AM

it's ashame this babe didn't make it, but it's an amazing animal. I couldn't stop staring at her! It was almost a lemony color, even her eyes, stunning animal, just a very sad end.

cka Apr 13, 2007 06:03 AM

Only pic I have of one I hatched out in 03, from a pair of amels het anery A. Lived for about 48 hours...

lbrat Apr 13, 2007 02:47 PM

Chris, when I read this post I thought I remembered you saying that you also hatched a clear corn.
What do you have brewing for this year?
Mike
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"Upon Thy Belly Thou Shalt Go"

cka Apr 14, 2007 06:54 AM

Hey bud :*), one clutch of black rat eggs in the incubator, w/c X het amel, and three corns due to lay in a few weeks, Snow het hypo X 2 Anery A's het hypo, ultra or amel and a Hunt Club Okeetee X Anery A, just because lol...How things up in Williamsport?

lbrat Apr 14, 2007 09:10 AM

Things are good.My quad. het. female is gravid.My leucistic black rat female is gravid also.Last year she threw 4 slugs and two good.Then the good ones went bad.One more try for this pair.
Feeding my subocs. up for breeding also.Last year she she slugged out with 11.Maybe better luck this year.I'm keeping the male cooler this time.
Also tried a het. pied x het. pied B.P. project.She is 1450 grams and I think she needs a little more time.Hopefully see a pied or two next time around.
If you go to Hamburg this month,shoot me an e.mail midro36@comcast.net.Maybe try to meet you somewhere in there at a set time or something.
Take care,
Mike M
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"Upon Thy Belly Thou Shalt Go"

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