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Faux Rock Work?

matalle Apr 16, 2007 09:18 AM

Does anyone have any experience or any information with creating large faux rock displays for monitor lizards? I just moved into a new house that I built. I have a full walk-out basement (approx 2500 sq ft). I am planning on building a 12' x 35' enclosure (basically the far wall of the basement) for my 2 year old 4' water monitor. There will be access to an outdoor enclosure to be built later. I'd like to make this enclosure as stimulating as possible as well as an attractive display. I know that anything decorative will need to be extremely rugged. When I poured the basement slab I had four 3" pvc drains installed in this area of the basement so that I could hose down the enclsoure as well as install a large pond-like water feature. Any info or words of wisdom would be much appreciated. I want this thing to be as easily maintained as well as enriching for the animal as possible.

Thanks!

Matt

Replies (3)

FR Apr 16, 2007 10:02 AM

Yes, I have experience. I worked for, then owned my own exhibit company. I also have keep many species of varanids to the point of many many generations.

When doing a cage project, you first have to decide what is your REAL intention. To make a display, or to make a usable home for a monitor/s.

Most people who make ornate cages, do so for themselves and not for the animals use or real welfare. Rockwork for a water monitors is not needed what so ever. In many ways, artifical rock is not even good for rock dwelling monitors.

Briefly, articial rock does not feel like rock, feel is more then having a duplicate surface. Or smell like rock, or have the mass and temp holding ability of rock. And lastly does not provide the life a real rock does. The reason I mention this is, reptiles use rocks for the above, not because its a rock. But because of what the rock provides. Like, temp regulation(a particular range of temps) security from predators, a source of food(what else lives in those rocks) and feel. They pick places that are comfortable to them.

Artificial rock does none of that, its only a facade, its for looks only.

Also, something to consider in a very serious way. Artificial rock is either concrete, FRC, or FRP. Most commonly concrete, which means if you lose interest in that monitor, species of monitors, or move. Its more expensive to remove then to install.

If your looking for a really cool display, and want it for looks, then do not consider what will be going in it. Build it, then place in it what will work. By the way, this is how nature works. It has habitats that are fill by life that that finds it useful.

Ok, I could go on for a long time(consulting is paid by the hour) But if it were me, I would build an enclosure that would work for many species. I would keep artificial rock to a minimum, a few boulders that can be easily removed or rearranged. Then I would use natural materials that prove useful to the monitors. Like, I would make the walls to accept paint and paint a mural of the type of habitats. I would of course plan a built the water area, and decorate the banks to appear natural, then use logs, artificial plants and real plants. Of course the most important aspect of any varanid cage is substrate, for a water monitors, a sand bank by a river would do the trick. Then paint the walls as an extenion of whats in the enclosure.

I would imagine in a basement, the cage itself will be fairly small, under 30 by 30ft. So the use of mirrors could be of use. Like, on a side wall, between two trees, this way you are forced to look in the mirror at an angle and it will reflect the back of the cage to make the cage appear almost endless.(I hope you can imagine that, as your going to need a good imagination)

Of course, the most important aspect is the water. Both the feature, if done wrong, it will destroy the house(your basement is the foundation of your house) ALso the whole cage needs to be waterproof as varanids need high humidity and that will also destroy your house. Again, consider this paragraph, you could indeed save you big bucks. Good luck, Cheers

matalle Apr 16, 2007 12:25 PM

Great! Thanks for the info! You definitely covered some interesting points. The needs of the water monitor will definitely come first. At the same time I'd like to make it as pleasing to look at for us human-types as well. I like simple designs and am just looking to make an interesting backdrop for the enclosure. I REALLY like your idea with the mirrors.
This is not my first attempt at building a large enclosure. This WOULD be my first attempt at building one as permanent as this one will hopefully be. I consider myself to be above average in the handiness category (I GC'd the construction of my house and did all of the interior work myself). I'm familiar with the dangers of keeping large open bodies of water in one's home as I currently have a 400 gallon reef in my living room with a 300 gallon sump also in the basement. I have installed a special ventilation system just for that purpose with this reef set up as well as redundant overflow protection systems. Previously I worked as a geotechnical engineer for a national engineering firm so I am intimately familiar with foundation problems often associated with water (especially with the limestone geology of south central PA).
The back wall and floor of this enclosure is poured reinforced concrete. Depending on what recommendations I receive I could cover these with some sort of liner etc to aid in water-proofing the system.
FR - were you serious about the consultation thing? If so I'd be interested. I want to make sure that this thing is done right so that my animals and I can enjoy it for a long time. Let me know how I should contact you if you would be available. Thanks!

nerkhunts Apr 17, 2007 05:01 PM

They make a product out of concrete that looks like stone. The face is rounded but the back is flat. To install you would mortar them to your concrete basement wall or any structure you built inside the enclosure.

The only draw back to fake stone is that concrete, especially new concrete, is extremely caustic when wet. I have installed patios with these products and burned my fingers because I hate wearing gloves when working. There are warning labels on the pallets of these materials stating this.

It might be better use natural stone. Believe it or not the price is comparable. It would be hard to imagine that this substance would not leach out of the product and get on your monitors skin.

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