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BREEDING !.getting worried . need advice

closedcasket88 Apr 16, 2007 10:25 AM

ok, i have a trio of everglades goin , a pair of emory rats,the male is albino and female regular , the male emory is also gonna pair up with femaleamel corn.
i moved into a new house and could only find a spot about 55 to 60degrees but i onlybrumated them for about a solid month ,moving made evrything go in late so i tried making up for it ,i figured theeverglades are very southern and corns can just be cooled downfor breeding but im kinda worried bout my emoryis with brumation length and how fertile they be.
im more worried about them breeding in general. ive seen some "kinkage" but its mostly from all my females.
my amel emory is nto showing much signs and my male everglades is not showing much signs either.
all the females are respondly good and twitchin up n kinkin up on them. i even cover there cage and give them privacy and make sure i have a peephole but i still see nothing ,it doesnt get any firther than a littel kinkage. ive occasionaly seen twiching from the males but it never gets any further than that .
on rainy days i make sure there paired up the day b4 during and after the rain and leave my house windows open and give them a littel spray to mimic spring a little bit more .
all the females have shed .my female regular emory shed twice since shes been out but stil dont even look close to gravid .they beenout for a month and a half or so and all females have shed a week or two after comign out of brumation so theyv had plenty of time to get there groove on .
im going to throw an egg box in my reg emory rats cage just incase but i do not suspect anything.
any thoughts? suggestions? am ijust paranoid and worried?
thanx
ryan
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0.0.1 Dusky pygmy rattlesnake
1.0 Amelanistic greatplains ratsnake
0.1 Greatplains ratsnake
0.1 Amelanistic Cornsnake
1.1 Everglades Ratsnake
0.1 Greenish ratsnake
1.1 Speckled kingsnake
1.1 stripeless gartersnake
1.0 onestriped northwestern garter
0.1 Oregon Red sided gartersnake
1.1 anoles
0.0.1 tokay gecko
0.1 graceful chamelion
1.0 green iguana
and a bangin @ss drumset

Replies (2)

closedcasket88 Apr 16, 2007 10:31 AM

i use aspen bedding .so i cant see any love stains too well.
im going to shred up some paper in themix to possible catch any "leakage" or watever uwould call it.
im currentlyhurtin on money and i cleaned all there cages b4 i took them out of brumation so im not about to change the aspen to newspaper just yet, ide like to get my moneys worth, ha
any other suggestions would be useful
thanx again
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0.0.1 Dusky pygmy rattlesnake
1.0 Amelanistic greatplains ratsnake
0.1 Greatplains ratsnake
0.1 Amelanistic Cornsnake
1.1 Everglades Ratsnake
0.1 Greenish ratsnake
1.1 Speckled kingsnake
1.1 stripeless gartersnake
1.0 onestriped northwestern garter
0.1 Oregon Red sided gartersnake
1.1 anoles
0.0.1 tokay gecko
0.1 graceful chamelion
1.0 green iguana
and a bangin @ss drumset

FRoberts Apr 17, 2007 11:04 PM

You may be paranoid, but to be honest, I have bred Corns and american rat snakes with no hibernation period.

Corns
Texas Rats
Black Rats
Yellow Rats
Everglades Rats

All with 100% fertility, they where subjected to temps in the low 70's, but always got into the 80's during the day. One female corn laid 28 fertile eggs. This could be due to the fact these are not wild caught f1 snakes, some are up to f7 generation wise. Many colubrids from warmer temperate climates may not need to be subjected to temps in the low 50's to successfully reproduce or it could also have to do with them not being wild caught, although I would think it would take a lot longer than a several generations to change the reproductive biology of a snake.
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Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

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