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Negative reinforcing.

Roger Van Couwen Apr 19, 2007 08:58 AM

I have a terrier mix who is a real killer. His best place would be in a barn as a ratter. But he's very loving, and he and my chihuahua play for hours per day.

Bugsey the terrier mix has killed three of my iguanas over the years, because I'm too scatterbrained to make sure the bathroom door is closed. I seriously considered re-homing him. Now I have my last and only last three lizards left - two Ctenosauruses, and the Ionides.

I'm not saying I did anything, /BUT
Do you guys think if I brought him in for x-rays, and they found a pellet in his shoulder, I would go up on cruelty charges?

Roger

Replies (8)

FR Apr 19, 2007 09:55 AM

I think you should without question, address the real problem. YOUR BRAIN. It seems to be wacked. You left the door open. Not the dog.
And why on earth are they in the bathroom. ARE THEY POTTY TRAINED? Oh thats right, because your brain is not strong enough to understand the cage they're in should not allow dehydration. So you should "not" have to soak them. If you did not soak them, Then you would not have left the door open and then you would not have to blame the dog for being a dog.

My guess is, they are in the bathroom to prevent something bad happening. Yet, that something bad did happen. Hmmmmmmm I guess the bathroom thing did not work out for your animals.

Actually, you should become an academic. Then you do not have to blame anyone, or shoot anything because its all theoretical and nothing happens in reality, only on paper/your mind/on screen. Like with here, you can simply say you shot the dog for your mistakes, and not really shoot the dog.

After reading your posts, I am becoming a fan of academics. It surely saves animals from being tortured by people who think themselves smart. You see academics just talk about animals, they don't have a need to keep them. At least some are smart enough to understand they are not capable of the actual keeping. Besides, the actual keeping gets in the way of theory. If they are not keeping them, they can leave the bathroom door open all they want.

Yes, in this case, your the dog. Cheers

caseyhawk55 Apr 19, 2007 12:08 PM

I have an idea. Contact Mike T and let him board that terrier for awhile. He posted a pick of a perfect place to keep that thing. Check it!

http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1293414,1293414
Link

FR Apr 20, 2007 08:46 AM

When you post these stupid keeper posts, it doesn't matter if your telling the truth or pulling peoples chains.

What your brillant mind is missing is, its not about you. In most cases the keeper is too stupid to change and in reality your "only" one person.

The value is the discussion, as there are many many lurkers who may gain value in these discussions.

In otherwords, It may help someone who is interested in good care. So whether pulling folks chains or not, really does not matter. In reality your helping get the word out. In fact, only causing the word to be repeated over and over. In fact, your just playing the fool, no matter if your telling the truth or not. If you are, your acting a fool, if your not, your acting an ever bigger fool.

So keep it up, it doesn't matter what silly game your playing. It works out to be all good. Besides, your making a lot of people feel better about themselves. Their mistakes are not nearly as bad as yours. Cheers

jobi Apr 19, 2007 12:11 PM

Roger I really think I have judged you corectly in my first reply to you months ago!

I am convinced your posting on this forum is part of a stupid game you play with your bodies from an other forum.

surly you cant be that dumb for real, if you are? pleas accept my oppologies as I have no right to judge you on your metal state, but pleas concider other pets more suited for you.

tpalopoli Apr 19, 2007 12:35 PM

I smell troll.

eradi Apr 19, 2007 12:36 PM

Are you serious?!?!?!?!
If you are then I totally agree with FR!
A mirror in your house will show you the problem!
Most newbies and inexperienced here are advised to get
a dog for a pet. Apparently that isn't an option for you...

nile_keepr Apr 19, 2007 02:20 PM

I really have a hard time understanding why people feel the need to mix their lizards and dogs.

I hear people constantly showing off pics of their lizard with dogs, or telling stories of how their dogs come up and check out their lizards, how their lizard and dog get along, blah blah blah.... no.

Theres no reason, ABSOLUTELY NO REASON, for you to mix monitors and dogs, reptiles of any species and dogs really.

A perfect example is what happened here. On the other hand, you sound like a total dumbass.

To paraphrase abit:

"Oh hey, Ive managed to let more than one of my animals get killed by my dog"... means, hi, im a dumbass.

"Yeah, so, Im not going to outright admit it, but I abused my animal to the point of shooting it with a pellet gun" .... means, im a really messed up person.

"You think Ill get brought up on cruelty charges?"

Do I think you will? I hope so.
Should you? Most definitely.

Why would you even have your dog out and about the house while you have your lizard out? Thats the great thing about a dog- YOU CAN PUT THEM OUTSIDE!

Hell, crate the hateful lil beast until you're done dealing with your other animals. This isnt rocket science man.

If you dont have the common sense to remove your dog (by which I mean straight lock his ass up, put him outside, lock him in another room) when handling your reptiles, then you REALLY need to think about re-homing your lizards, and prolly your dog too.

Its not like this is a child that can open doors or anything- how could you let 3 of your iguanas be killed by the same dog?

These arent toys that you can just go "Oops, dog broke it! Time to get a new one!"- these are living things, and your lack of respect for their lives paints a very poor picture of you as a person.

Take some serious responsibility, or get out of the hobby man... a monitor dying due to poor husbandry is one thing, a monitor; ANY ANIMAL, being killed by another because of owner incompetence like this is pathetic.

kap10cavy Apr 19, 2007 07:10 PM

Forget the pellet gun, neuter and lobotomize the owner.

Scott
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