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I went to the IRBA convention today and saw a Cinnamon Pastel in person for the first time today...gotta admit I wasn't very impressed. Maybe the one I saw just wasn't a good example, but to me it honestly just looked like a nifty lookin normal.

Does anyone have any good pictures of Cinnamons they'd like to post to prove me wrong? Babies, juvies, adults, whatever you've got

Thanks much!

~jenny
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"The python has, and I fib no fibs,
318 pairs of ribs.
In stating this I place reliance
On a seance with one who died for science
This figure is sworn to and attested,
He counted them while being digested."
~Ogden Nash

jenny.thegreenes.org

"If you're happy and you know it,
Bomb Iraq!
If you cannot find Osama,
Bomb Iraq!
If the terrorists are frisky,
Pakistan is looking shifty,
North Korea is too risky,
Bomb Iraq!

The world is about to end....We are back to "cinnamons look like normals".

When Cinnamons were first introduced, people said they looked like normals. Then they were the best thing in the world. Now they look like normals again.

Remember the good old days when Cinnamons were AWESOME and we could have flame wars on Kingsnake.

Well, Mike...

It is what it is.

Here is my Cinny.

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www.HeathersHerps.com

-Ohh, what a Lady-

Balls for Life, Baby!

Unfortunately, the photo I offered is a bit artistic and doesn't show the true cinny traits to the undiscerning eye. I apologize for that...

Dark heads are a good sign, as well as flames and floating circles.

http://www.nextworldexotics.com/hgcin.htm

Hunters Guide for Cinnies
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www.HeathersHerps.com

-Ohh, what a Lady-

Balls for Life, Baby!

I could still see the dark head and flames somewhat... Cool picture though

~jenny
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"The python has, and I fib no fibs,
318 pairs of ribs.
In stating this I place reliance
On a seance with one who died for science
This figure is sworn to and attested,
He counted them while being digested."
~Ogden Nash

jenny.thegreenes.org

"If you're happy and you know it,
Bomb Iraq!
If you cannot find Osama,
Bomb Iraq!
If the terrorists are frisky,
Pakistan is looking shifty,
North Korea is too risky,
Bomb Iraq!

Well, you gotta admit, it WOULD be pretty easy to mistake one for a normal if you weren't looking for a cinnamon. They just seem like one of the more subtle morphs.

Hopefully there's no flame wars this time

~jenny
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"The python has, and I fib no fibs,
318 pairs of ribs.
In stating this I place reliance
On a seance with one who died for science
This figure is sworn to and attested,
He counted them while being digested."
~Ogden Nash

jenny.thegreenes.org

"If you're happy and you know it,
Bomb Iraq!
If you cannot find Osama,
Bomb Iraq!
If the terrorists are frisky,
Pakistan is looking shifty,
North Korea is too risky,
Bomb Iraq!

Here is one of mine when he was younger.Sory for the crappy pics.I will post some better ones for you of the ones I have later today.

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Kelvin,J,Tourangeau

www.PastelDreamMorphs.com
Underconstruction

Very, very nice!!

one of these. I'm not crazy about cinnamons, but I am about pewters.

Not so subtle when mixed with other traits.

Brandon Osborne

Here is a Black Pastel I produced last year...

And a Normal for comparison...

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Jon
Cold Blooded Addiction

The black pastels I can see, not quite as knock-your-socks-off obvious as a spider or regular pastel, but it's there. And pretty.
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"The python has, and I fib no fibs,
318 pairs of ribs.
In stating this I place reliance
On a seance with one who died for science
This figure is sworn to and attested,
He counted them while being digested."
~Ogden Nash

jenny.thegreenes.org

"If you're happy and you know it,
Bomb Iraq!
If you cannot find Osama,
Bomb Iraq!
If the terrorists are frisky,
Pakistan is looking shifty,
North Korea is too risky,
Bomb Iraq!

here is mine. doesn't look like a normal to me.

You're right, that one doesn't look like a normal The one I saw was no where near as nice as this one.
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"The python has, and I fib no fibs,
318 pairs of ribs.
In stating this I place reliance
On a seance with one who died for science
This figure is sworn to and attested,
He counted them while being digested."
~Ogden Nash

jenny.thegreenes.org

"If you're happy and you know it,
Bomb Iraq!
If you cannot find Osama,
Bomb Iraq!
If the terrorists are frisky,
Pakistan is looking shifty,
North Korea is too risky,
Bomb Iraq!

This is a female cinny that I held back from this year.

Again, in this one I can see the cinnamon traits... I really suspect the snake I saw was just not that great of a cinnamon.

Thank you!
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"The python has, and I fib no fibs,
318 pairs of ribs.
In stating this I place reliance
On a seance with one who died for science
This figure is sworn to and attested,
He counted them while being digested."
~Ogden Nash

jenny.thegreenes.org

"If you're happy and you know it,
Bomb Iraq!
If you cannot find Osama,
Bomb Iraq!
If the terrorists are frisky,
Pakistan is looking shifty,
North Korea is too risky,
Bomb Iraq!

I guess I better like these. I'm gonna have about 40 eggs from this guy in the next month. They aren't the greatest looking by themselves. But you have to look at what combos they can make. The reason I bought one last year, is because I want supers. I can't wait to have 15 or 20 all black female balls around to breed into other things. Many make white, but only one makes black, grasshopper Some cinnies are definitely drab and plain looking, but if you get the right one, they have really impressive flames and blushing. I'm very satisfied with mine. I hope his offspring turn out looking just like him.

It's true that they are not that extraordinary by themselves, but it's the potential they hold. I myself love the deep orange in a black pastel. I am sure you would be impressed with a silver streak or silver bullet. Not to mention the pewter and super cinny. And there is still a lot of other potential combos that have yet to be produced...

The Super Cinny or Black Pastel Pied should be crazy!

Oz

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VERY NICE Pewter! I love the speckling.

Brandon Osborne

The combos are definately breathtaking!

~jenny
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"The python has, and I fib no fibs,
318 pairs of ribs.
In stating this I place reliance
On a seance with one who died for science
This figure is sworn to and attested,
He counted them while being digested."
~Ogden Nash

jenny.thegreenes.org

"If you're happy and you know it,
Bomb Iraq!
If you cannot find Osama,
Bomb Iraq!
If the terrorists are frisky,
Pakistan is looking shifty,
North Korea is too risky,
Bomb Iraq!

Cinnamons do look a little like a normal. It does take a little bit of experience and an eye for the proper traits to be able to pick them out, or appreciate them in their heterozygous form. However, they do produce supers which are super sweet, and not white.

Hopefully this year we'll finally see the super cinnamon pied. That should help the cinnamons reputation.

All of the examples I've seen on this forum are noticeably cinnamons, however, anything but a stellar example of a cinnamon could be easily mistaken for a normal by someone who wasn't looking for a cinnamon. I showed the pictures to my best guy friend and he said "Am I supposed to be seeing something different between these ones and yours?"

The combos and supers are awesome, but the het form just isn't quite as spectacular.

Note: I am NOT bashing the cinnamon! In any way, shape, or form! I'm just saying...it's not as blaringly obvious as some other morphs.

~jenny
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"The python has, and I fib no fibs,
318 pairs of ribs.
In stating this I place reliance
On a seance with one who died for science
This figure is sworn to and attested,
He counted them while being digested."
~Ogden Nash

jenny.thegreenes.org

"If you're happy and you know it,
Bomb Iraq!
If you cannot find Osama,
Bomb Iraq!
If the terrorists are frisky,
Pakistan is looking shifty,
North Korea is too risky,
Bomb Iraq!

Here is a pic of our cinny when we first got him.He is turning out to be a awsome looking animal.KIM

Undeniably a beautiful snake
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"The python has, and I fib no fibs,
318 pairs of ribs.
In stating this I place reliance
On a seance with one who died for science
This figure is sworn to and attested,
He counted them while being digested."
~Ogden Nash

jenny.thegreenes.org

"If you're happy and you know it,
Bomb Iraq!
If you cannot find Osama,
Bomb Iraq!
If the terrorists are frisky,
Pakistan is looking shifty,
North Korea is too risky,
Bomb Iraq!

Do these look like normal’s to you.

Albey's "Too Cool" Reptiles

YUPPER'S Albey they look like normals to me.I REALLY think you should send them here and I will HIDE them for you so NO one can see them LOL .
Albey I still say that is the HOTTEST looking Pewter that I have EVER seen WOW I HOPE the ones I produce look half as good as those
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Kelvin,J,Tourangeau

www.PastelDreamMorphs.com
Underconstruction

The one on top, nope, but the one on bottom maybe ;P
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"The python has, and I fib no fibs,
318 pairs of ribs.
In stating this I place reliance
On a seance with one who died for science
This figure is sworn to and attested,
He counted them while being digested."
~Ogden Nash

jenny.thegreenes.org

"If you're happy and you know it,
Bomb Iraq!
If you cannot find Osama,
Bomb Iraq!
If the terrorists are frisky,
Pakistan is looking shifty,
North Korea is too risky,
Bomb Iraq!

And here he is a little bit older....notice the brown on his stripe has faded to a nice light brown....I need to get some new pics of him...this ones kinda crappy....

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Luke Martin
Bronze Serpent Reptiles

Gorgeous!
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"The python has, and I fib no fibs,
318 pairs of ribs.
In stating this I place reliance
On a seance with one who died for science
This figure is sworn to and attested,
He counted them while being digested."
~Ogden Nash

jenny.thegreenes.org

"If you're happy and you know it,
Bomb Iraq!
If you cannot find Osama,
Bomb Iraq!
If the terrorists are frisky,
Pakistan is looking shifty,
North Korea is too risky,
Bomb Iraq!

Jenny, come over and check out mine. He is pretty nice.

Dave

Haha, in May classes will be over and I'll have free time again. I'll have to come up then and see your critters for myself!

~jenny
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"The python has, and I fib no fibs,
318 pairs of ribs.
In stating this I place reliance
On a seance with one who died for science
This figure is sworn to and attested,
He counted them while being digested."
~Ogden Nash

jenny.thegreenes.org

"If you're happy and you know it,
Bomb Iraq!
If you cannot find Osama,
Bomb Iraq!
If the terrorists are frisky,
Pakistan is looking shifty,
North Korea is too risky,
Bomb Iraq!

Hoping for pewters this year....
Kevin
www.KMSReptiles.com

Good luck with the Pewters! That's a pretty cinny

~jenny
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"The python has, and I fib no fibs,
318 pairs of ribs.
In stating this I place reliance
On a seance with one who died for science
This figure is sworn to and attested,
He counted them while being digested."
~Ogden Nash

jenny.thegreenes.org

"If you're happy and you know it,
Bomb Iraq!
If you cannot find Osama,
Bomb Iraq!
If the terrorists are frisky,
Pakistan is looking shifty,
North Korea is too risky,
Bomb Iraq!

Here are a couple of older photos of my female cinny.

Just picked this lil stud muffin up, I love the brown backs on some of the Cinnamons.

Pic courtesy of Ed Clark

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Executive Reptiles
Amanda Kingsbury & David Kendrick
www.executivereptiles.com

See, that's a nice obvious cinnamon. My non-snakey friends would still think it's normal but even my inexperienced eyes would pick that one out

~jenny
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"The python has, and I fib no fibs,
318 pairs of ribs.
In stating this I place reliance
On a seance with one who died for science
This figure is sworn to and attested,
He counted them while being digested."
~Ogden Nash

jenny.thegreenes.org

"If you're happy and you know it,
Bomb Iraq!
If you cannot find Osama,
Bomb Iraq!
If the terrorists are frisky,
Pakistan is looking shifty,
North Korea is too risky,
Bomb Iraq!

Let us not forget that it will probably take cinny's or black pastels to make what very well may be the holy grail of the ball python world...super cinni/lavender albino....just think....an all purple snake....Jimi H. eat your heart out...LOL.. Plus a pick of some pewter makers...

That's actually my dream is to have a purple snake, although I was just figuring on getting a lavender albino kingsnake

~jenny
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"The python has, and I fib no fibs,
318 pairs of ribs.
In stating this I place reliance
On a seance with one who died for science
This figure is sworn to and attested,
He counted them while being digested."
~Ogden Nash

jenny.thegreenes.org

"If you're happy and you know it,
Bomb Iraq!
If you cannot find Osama,
Bomb Iraq!
If the terrorists are frisky,
Pakistan is looking shifty,
North Korea is too risky,
Bomb Iraq!

Here is a head shot of one of our cinnamon Females, you can see how dark the heads really are. Ill try and post a pic of one of our males tonight he has amazing colors.
Kim
N.A.R.C

WOW! Does the head look like it's got more normalish coloring in different light or is yours just a stellar example?

That's pretty awesome looking!

~jenny
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"The python has, and I fib no fibs,
318 pairs of ribs.
In stating this I place reliance
On a seance with one who died for science
This figure is sworn to and attested,
He counted them while being digested."
~Ogden Nash

jenny.thegreenes.org

"If you're happy and you know it,
Bomb Iraq!
If you cannot find Osama,
Bomb Iraq!
If the terrorists are frisky,
Pakistan is looking shifty,
North Korea is too risky,
Bomb Iraq!

All of my cinnys have dark heads, but she has the darkest head i have seen. I have a male that is very light almost coco in color, Ill try and get a pic of him tonight.
Thanks Kim