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Is there any official name for Thayeri x Corn? I havce seen them and many other combo's listed as "Jungle Corn" but I thought that jungle corns were supposed to be 1/2corn 1/2 cal king.

Is there a more specific name for thayeri x corn? Or for that matter other types of king x corn?

Main reason I ask is so that if I get into them at a later date I know what they should be called and because I really dislike confusion causing people to think snakes are something they are not. That actually has been the source of my reservations about the term "Jungle Corn" but seeing as how the corn market is getting flooded by hybrid crosses in general it is hardly worth quibling over anymore.

Thanks in advance for any info.

Sean.

I call my thaeri x corn Thaeracorns. I have also done Brook's x corn and named those Brook Korns. Cal-king x corn = Kal Korn. If everyone would call them what they are instead of some fancy "selling" name this would all me a lot easier. I have also seen any king to a corn listed as a jungle corn and I think that is completely irresponsible. I will not buy a hybrid from anyone that can't give me the exact percentages of what species is in the animal in question.
My advice is to just call them what they are and not worry about what other's are doing.

if you won't buy from someone who cannot give you percentages, what do you think when people list all of the species involved and pass that info along with the snakes without percentage info?

I keep track of every generation that I know, but most of my hybrids are not early generation hybrids and some have five species involved in their creation. I thought that simply having a list of all species and possible hets was enough info to provide.

What do you suggest for later generation hybrids (for example, a 6th generation Jungle corn who has no percentage info but was descended from an okeetee corn x albino cal king?) At what point does "percentage" not matter anymore? Also, another example, I have Jurassic milks from Andy Barr. We all know the species that are used to make jurassic milks and as long as no other species are introduced, essentially these are a distinct "breed" of snake. Does the percentage of species matter if you are creating a breed like this (with a set variety of species being used)?

This was an interesting point that you brought up. I'd like to hear other's opinions on this as well

thanks, charlene

In the past I have not bought animals from people who listed what species were involved but could not give me exact percentages. The reason I am so particular about this is that a "jungle corn" can be 1/2 corn, 3/4 corn or 1/4 corn, 3/4 cal-king but the label "Jungle Corn" or "corn x cal-king" doesn't tell you that. I do not agree with breeding a hybrid back to one of the parent species because it hides the other species involved too much. I love hybrids but only those who have an exact lineage. One time too many I have seen hybrids at shows labeled "Hybrid King" and that's all the guy knows about it. In my opinion a 3/4 corn 1/4 cal-king is a different animal than a 3/4 cal-king 1/4 corn or even a 1/2 corn 1/2 cal-king.

Back to your generation question.... As long as you are breeding a 50% corn, 50% cal-king to a 50% corn, 50% cal-king they will always produce young that are 50% corn and 50% cal-kings. I think percentages do matter and will always matter even into the later generations.
I am very passionate about keeping accurate records of how much of what snake is in which hybrid.
Good questions!

I agree completely, I will not buy them, if I do not know exact lineage.
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