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I know many of you are out of staters, and some of you may have reservations about w.c. animals as part of our hobby, but I encourage you to check this out and see it for what it really is. I truly believe that most herpers are NOT commercial collectors and those who do collect lawfully by procuring the proper licenses and permits have a lot to offer to THIS forum. I have kept 25 snakes out of the 1000's I have seen in the field in my lifetime, and only exceptional specimens will do for my collection of future breeders. I state this to let you know where I stand and that if passed in this state, it will surely follow in some similar measure in your state, if not already(Georgia comes to mind). We have 4 kinds of kings here that are as different as night and day, to me at least. I have enjoyed my time in the field, and learned a lot. I urge you to not sit at your keyboards and let this come about, the least you could do is look at the grayband forum and check it out for yourselves. Your animal came from somewhere, way back when, sometimes different things show up in the field that would actually be kinda cool added to the gene pool of existing collections. Please don't knock it until you have tried it, Bluerosy, how much did you learn in the field? Most of what is known of these animals came from field herpers doing the hard stuff, and all Texas herpers should be ashamed if they sit on their hands and be silent. If you are against field collecting, just remember the snake you love so much came from a c.b. breeder that got the founding stock from the wild at some point. Those super yellow scremin' specks are found in the wild, don't see too many of them, the white walled speck came from the wild, those albino prairie kings, beautiful, came from the wild. Monday I caught a local southern plains rat that is a full blown striper! Not a king, but it is very cool. This is a bill that needs to be looked at, it will affect you in some way down the road. Tom, those specks are amazing, what if.........?
Todd Hughes

Okay where do we go to sign up?
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I still don't need no spell chack.

I know this is on the Grayband forum and there are a ton of posts to weave through. Maybe you can post the contact info needed such as phone number or form letter we can send out.

Here is the grayband forum:
http://forums.kingsnake.com/forum.php?catid=72#1298415

Here is a form letter I found:
http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1297686,1297686

SOmebody please post a phone number if that is what is needed for us to do!
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I still don't need no spell chack.

Sorry for callin' ya' out, need the big biys on this, it is all there on the alterna page ready to go. Form letters, phone #'s of reps and senators. Thanks for your time.
Todd Hughes

You know I literally had nightmares about this bill last night. The gov't always wants to slowly chop away at our freedoms and rights. Regulation is always easy and deregulation is nearly impossible once things are passed. Next thing you know interstate trade of reptiles will not be allowed and then keeping of snakes altogteher.

I am 48 years old I have already seen some of this stuff happen in my lifetime. IT WILL GET WORSE!

keeping certain species of snakes is already illegal in some states (I am talking about common snakes such as california kings Snakes and cornssnakes and not endangered species)and some city ordinances have it completly illegal to keep any snakes at all.

This is government and beuacracy slowly chipping away at out rights. Slowly these God given rights as human beings will dissapear for our children! Gone are the days of being able to legally pick up a box turtle on the road or to cath a garter snakes and bring it home to to mom to "study". Thats what most of did to get started in reptiles.Right?

I am sure the millions american soldiers from prervious wars are spinning in their graves thinking this is what they fought for and DIED for. This is what our founding fathers worked so hard for so that our rights will not get taken away and this remain a free country.. This is/was supposed to be the land of the free but it is slowly and surley turning into something else.

STAND BY AND WATCH IT HAPPEN. AND DON'T COMPLAIN WHEN I TOLD YOU SO BECAUSE YOU DID NOT DO ANYTHING WHEN YOU HAD THE CHANCE!
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I still don't need no spell chack.

Muchas gracias!
Todd Hughes

I'd be honest on how I started, helping toads cross roads after a rain store. I would make both my parents stop the cage to help out a toad/frog lol Would also catch them in keep them in jars
Who ever said toad/frogs give you warts is full of it lol
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