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South Texas Report 4/19/07 - 4/21/07

Nathan Wells Apr 25, 2007 10:47 PM

South Texas Report 4/19/07 - 4/21/07

4/19/07
My wife Christina and I just returned home from a quick weekend trip down south. We left Houston around 10:00 and made our way down to Hebbronville. We settled into a hotel and decided to rest until the evening before heading south of town where our night of collecting would begin. Since the daytime temperatures never reached over 90 degrees, our main goal for the night was to head south following the warmer weather, trying to avoid the cooler temperatures moving in from the north. We drove several hours through Jim Hogg, Starr and Zapata counties before retiring around 1:00 am.

1 sub-adult Crotalus atrox (DOR), Jim Hogg Co.
1 adult Crotalus atrox (DOR), Jim Hogg Co.
1 adult Arizona e. arenicola (DOR), Jim Hogg Co.
1 adult Pituophis c. sayi (DOR), Starr Co.
1 adult Crotalus atrox (AOR), Starr Co.
1 sub-adult Crotalus atrox (DOR), Starr Co.
1 adult Nerodia r. rhombifer (DOR), Zapata Co.
1 adult Rhinocheilus l. tessellatus (DOR), Zapata Co.
1 yearling Pituophis c. sayi (DOR), Zapata Co.
1 adult Pantherophis g. meahllmorum (DOR), Zapata Co.

4/20/07
The next morning, we grabbed a quick bite to eat before making our way west of Hebbronville in search of early morning reptilian activity. We headed into Bruni, Texas to poke through the various trash dumps around town. Our trip through town ended abruptly as we soon discovered that most of the trash had been removed and that the area had been replaced with newly paved roads. It was definitely disappointing for that area had produced countless numbers of snakes over the years. We continued on, driving the various back roads through Webb and Jim Hogg counties until heading back into town. The temperatures stayed in the mid 80’s as the clouds slowly rolled in.

1 sub-adult Thamnophis m. marcianus (DOR), Webb Co.
2 adult Pituophis c. sayi (DOR), Jim Hogg Co.

Later in the afternoon, we were joined by my good friend Rob Klockman and his wife. Rob’s original plan was to hunt up near Freer but decided to stay down south around Hebbronville. Once evening came around, we split up and headed out northwest of town. The temperatures dropped quickly but seemed to stabilize in the mid 70's for most of the night. And our hope for a little rain slowly withered away. Again our strategy was to follow the warm weather as it slowly made its way to the border. We cruised through Webb, Zapata, Jim Hogg and Starr counties until shortly after 1:00 in the morning.

1 adult Pantherophis g. meahllmorum (AOR), Webb Co.
1 sub-adult Crotalus atrox (AOR), Webb Co.
1 adult Crotalus atrox (AOR), Webb Co. (an amazing beast, over 5’)
2 sub-adult Crotalus atrox (AOR), Webb Co.
1 sub-adult Crotalus atrox (DOR), Webb Co.
1 adult Crotalus atrox (AOR), Webb Co. (another giant at nearly 6’)
1 adult Arizona e. arenicola (AOR), Jim Hogg Co.
1 adult Arizona e. arenicola (DOR), Jim Hogg Co.
1 yearling Crotalus atrox (DOR), Jim Hogg Co.
3 sub-adult Crotalus atrox (AOR), Jim Hogg Co.
4 sub-adult Crotalus atrox (DOR), Jim Hogg Co.
1 adult Crotalus atrox (AOR), Jim Hogg Co. (impressive monster at 6’)
5 adult Crotalus atrox (DOR), Jim Hogg Co. (2 animals being over 5’)

After dropping off the wives, Rob and I hit the roads again in hopes of finding some late night L.t. annulata. Empty handed and after almost 2 hours of driving we called it a night and went our separate ways. The next morning, we packed up, grabbed some lunch and headed back to Houston. We were greeted with light rain for most of the way home; a rain that South Texas so desperately needed. Overall, even though the numbers of snakes found was low for that part of the country and the weather wasn’t ideal we still had a great time as usual. Although experiencing firsthand all of these animals in their elements can be spectacular, there is nothing nicer than watching the sun go down while driving along a nice quiet winding road-definitely, South Texas at its best.

Nathan Wells

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Replies (18)

Nathan Wells Apr 25, 2007 10:49 PM

Crotalus atrox
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Nathan Wells Apr 25, 2007 10:50 PM

Crotalus atrox
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Nathan Wells Apr 25, 2007 10:54 PM

Crotalus atrox, 5' adult
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Nathan Wells Apr 25, 2007 10:54 PM

Crotalus atrox, 6' beast
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Nathan Wells Apr 25, 2007 10:56 PM

Pituophis c. sayi (DOR)
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Nathan Wells Apr 25, 2007 10:59 PM

Pantherophis g. meahllmorum
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antelope Apr 25, 2007 11:44 PM

I always enjoy your reports from the southwest quad! I live closer than you and haven't ever seen the numbers you put up some years, but it can be awesome when the temps and light rain are right! Here's an interesting flip from Monday, a striped meahl worm from Robstown. I forgot to downsize the field pics but these will have to do. This bad boy will have a busy schedule with my Nueces county females!
Todd Hughes

Nathan Wells Apr 27, 2007 04:02 PM

I'll have to let you know when I'll be making another trip down there so we can meet up. My good friend Robert Edwards speaks very highly of you. Hopefully the stripe in that ratsnake will breed true, should produce some nice babies. Take care.
Nathan

mike17L Apr 30, 2007 04:26 PM

Todd, that is one cool snake, where did you pick him up?
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South Texas Herps

antelope May 01, 2007 07:24 AM

In a vacant lot in Robstown, along 77N.
Todd Hughes

mike17L May 02, 2007 12:22 PM

thats stinkin cool, I need to find something like that around here, perhaps a 2 headed albino annulata
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antelope May 02, 2007 07:11 PM

Mike,it happens, I must have driven by that vacant lot a hunnert times and thought, Nah, too close to the highway! If you do find a two headed albino anulatta, I wanna see it and I want you to stud it out, lol!
Todd Hughes

mike17l May 02, 2007 10:06 PM

If I find a two headed albino annulata it better be a male is all I know, and at that point ill be in the market for any female annulata I can find, Heck Ill stud that thing anywhere I can find an open cloaca.
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antelope May 03, 2007 11:23 AM

hahahahaha, I hear that!
Todd Hughes

KJUN May 01, 2007 07:15 AM

Ahhh, another striped one pops up. That looks almost exactly like the couple I still have in my current colony. John Cherry'sline is almost definitely not inheritable, but I'll know this year. I've got a large clutch off of some of his F1's incubating now. The main line I work with is from a further west of you in south Texas. It is of an undetermined mode of inheritance right now, but it IS inheritable...somehow.... Luck to you one this one!

If you are interested in talking about these guys, different lines, are doing some swapping in the future to see if they are related, shoot mean email. I might miss a forum post.

Take care,
KJ
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KJUN Snakehaven

rexrowan Apr 26, 2007 05:39 AM

I noticed your use of Pantherophis instead of Elaphe. The most recent information I have (link below, p. 7) indicates that this name change for North American rat snakes had been suggested in a Russian journal of herpetology based on molecular data but had not yet been accepted by the SSAR. Has there been any change in this?

http://www.ssarherps.org/pdf/Crotherupdate.pdf

Thanks,

Rex Rowan
Gainesville, FL

antelope Apr 26, 2007 11:48 AM

I like Elaphe but am going with the flow, a lot of people are going this route and some field guides are using it currently. I am no taxonomist, just trying to communicate effectively, for all intents and purposes, it is a gutatta or rat snake/corn snake. I think there are some very important differences between these rat snakes and corn snakes but they are similar. The protuberant eyes make for a very different animal, IMHO.
Todd Hughes

dniles Apr 27, 2007 09:21 PM

Looks like a great trip, Nathan. Looking forward to getting out there to do some herping with you.

Dave
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