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I thought by now there would be more cb dwarf burms available on the market and even some albinos or hets as well, I have seen a few of course. I think that these smaller animals will be the key to making one of the best snakes on the planet available to anyone that wants them but cannot because of the giant adult size! I am looking forward to the same with Retics as well of course and its nice to see there are more than a few people working on smaller species to make the ultimate pet python for the average keeper. Regards, Big Jim

I agree that the smaller size will make them accessible (and reasonable) snakes for more keepers.
But call me crazy - I kept a pair of Albino Burms for years, and the size (14 and 18 feet) and gentleness was part of the joy of having them. Not to mention all the free fertilizer.

I agree with your view on burmese and of course other giant python species. For many people it actually is the eventual large size that is what is appealing about a burmese or a retic. For the same reason many folks like St. Bernards and Great Danes and etc.

Not that I am in any way putting down the downsized, half-dwarf versions of the burms and tics. I'm not. There will be folks that like their considerably smaller sizes better and that's all good. Though I would be hesitant to refer to them as "dwarfs" when they are still half mainland blood. This can be unintentionally misleading since they will still grow to very large sizes and an unsuspecting buyer wanting only a tiny albino burmese can still end up with a gigantic snake in 6 to 10 years.

For me, I am still very excited to see what comes of mixing the existing burm and retic morph traits into the smaller dwarf sub-species just in terms of seeing what the differing dwarf species contrasts and patterns do to the known morph traits. Subtle differences in the dwarf specie's basic colors and patterns can greatly alter the existing morph traits and basically create something very unique and entirely "new".
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I have heard the Dwarf Retics and Burms are alot more flighty than the bigger ones? So you may have a smaller snake but not as easy to handle, if that is true.
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That's a very valid point. I have oodles more trouble with handling an agressive 5 foot scrub or white lip than I do with the largest of my burms or tics.
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Not really but as Dave stated in an earlier post Retics are generally more flighty and prone to bite in certain cirumstances, and when thinking dwarf Dave I am thinking under 20ft! I dont think allot of people put thought into what they are doing when they buy a burm or retic, when the animal gets over 13ft or so they can get scared! I have ended up with allot of those animals, and then find them a suitable home. I have worked with animals over 20ft and it can get the ole heart going! nothing like it. With Retics I see no end to what might be produced in the future, might even rival those darn ball pythons! Big Jim

You must be talking about wild caught retics? Or if you talking about feeding response then well your probably right, because my burm never striked the glass when I walked by, but the retic does. Burm just brought its big head over to the window and looked at me with eyes saying "feed me, see I have not more lump". Where the tic is "Dude, just open that door and I am firing out" Otherwise people with the dwarfs say that these little guys are fireballs. The true fun of owning these is to take them out, what fun is it if you keep getting nailed everytime, like my boa. It just because one that you feed clean and have to wear a sweatshirt and gloves with. Until they breed that part out of it, like they did with what they did with the wild caught tics of the 80's, they be more problems or are they like the Rocks and that is just the way it is? I look forward to seeing and hearing more but that has caused me to stay away from a dwarf burm at this point. Good looking though and very tempting. Please let me know your dealing and conversations about them.
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1.0 Super Tiger
1.0 Amel Retic
0.1 Ball Python
0.1 Red Tail
0.1 Blood Python
1.0 Green Ananconda
1.0 Emerald Tree Boa

I think most Burm lovers, like the size that regular Burms get. Regarding the dwarf dispositions, the two I got 2 years ago have always been the sweetest snakes and never aggressive (unless the female is in shed), except to their food. Maybe I just got lucky with my two but also, maybe this mellower disposition can be passed to the offspring. Hopefully this year.

True. I got my burms because the person who had them said they'd gotten to big. They were only 7ft and 10ft at that point!