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Canibalism

hgiddings Aug 14, 2003 12:44 PM

Are P. regius inclined toward canibalism? Do parents evereat their hatchlings or eggs? Is that why I've read that the male should be removed from an enclosure where a female is brooding? Should I just get a book and stop asking all these possibly inane questions?

Replies (7)

longtang Aug 14, 2003 01:10 PM

>>Are P. regius inclined toward canibalism? Do parents evereat their hatchlings or eggs? Is that why I've read that the male should be removed from an enclosure where a female is brooding? Should I just get a book and stop asking all these possibly inane questions?

. My suspicion is that what you are reading wants you to separate them because it is generally believed that BP's should not be housed together. It adds stress becuase BP's are not social creatures. You don't wnat to stress your breeders out.
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Longtang. I like snakes and rats.

grimdog Aug 14, 2003 01:27 PM

Ok so this past weekend I go to a local herp society meeting. At this meeting there are a few people discussing things. One had just adopted a new male ball python that was supposedly 15 years old. He said he was going to bring it home and put it with his other balls. My wife piped up that keeping males together wasn't a good idea as they can fight and keeping them together at all was kinda dumb for stress reasons. He insisted that they enjoyed wrestling and were all happy. I listened to this guy and another guy talk I heard even funnier stories. One that says he is now out of reptiles introduced 1.0 "big" burm into the enclosure of 1.1 "big" burms. Of course the two males instantly started to battle over the territory. The guy had to seperate these two males. He threw one into the bathroom. Returned to the other room where he proceeded to wrestle with the other male burm. He thought the male burm was joking around with him and having fun. The other guy then starts to tell a story about keeping burms in groups. And how he keeps a rock, a yellow anaconda, and an eyeless burm together. Hmm last time I knew those 3 required slightly different envioronments. I sat there absolutely disgusted at the whole situation but these guys both knew everything there was to know. One of them brought 2 little children with them to a show that was to be put on. The two little kids ran around the whole time screaming so I couldn't hear what the show director was saying. I walked away very unimpressed. Some people out there just don't have a clue. Very sad but very true.
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Scott_Sullivan Aug 14, 2003 02:50 PM

As for the first question, No, balls are not cannabalistic. I've kept 1.2 balls in the same enclosure for 3 years and it has never been a problem. That is not to say that buying 3 baby balls and putting them together is a good idea. Make sure that they are eating well before introducing (after quarantine). If they should stop feeding after being introduced (without any other possible reasons) than I would seperate them. It's never been a problem for me though. As for asking too many question, that's one of the reasons this forum is here. Before asking questions you may want to check previous messages to see if there has already been a discussion that will answer your questions. The search feature is also good for this (if you can get it to work ) If you can't find the answer your looking for, ask away. That's what everyone is here for. Best of luck, Scott.
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Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
Martin Luther King, Jr.

"In any civilized society, it is every citizen's responsibility to obey just laws.
But at the same time, it is every citizen's responsibility to disobey unjust laws."
—Martin Luther King Jr

Sariel Aug 14, 2003 04:20 PM

Quote
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. "
Martin Luther King, Jr.

Quoting MLK, jr.
"Injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere. "

Kobe Bryant-
During a recent appearence at Teen Show.

Scott_Sullivan Aug 14, 2003 04:33 PM

That's sad that he would mis-quote MLK. I don't want to get into a big discussion here about it but I just find it hard to believe he did it (When I first heard about OJ, I also thought he was innocent though, LOL). I was obviously wrong about OJ, I hope I'm not about Kobe (although my track record isn't too good in such matters ). We'll see what happens. Thanks, Scott Sullivan.

P.S. If anyone else wants to agree or disagree with my comment, feel free to e-mail me. I just don't want to get too off-topic on a ball python forum.
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Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
Martin Luther King, Jr.

"In any civilized society, it is every citizen's responsibility to obey just laws.
But at the same time, it is every citizen's responsibility to disobey unjust laws."
—Martin Luther King Jr

Scott_Sullivan Aug 15, 2003 11:27 AM

You probably already know but NEVER feed them in the same enclosure. Rubbermaid boxes are perfect for feeding them seperately (especially the ones that you can't see through.) Just be careful when opening the box because they will often strike as soon as you open the box thinking your putting another food item in. A snake hook works good in this situation. Usually once you have them out of the box and in your hand they will stop trying to strike. Good luck, Scott.
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Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
Martin Luther King, Jr.

"In any civilized society, it is every citizen's responsibility to obey just laws.
But at the same time, it is every citizen's responsibility to disobey unjust laws."
—Martin Luther King Jr

hgiddings Aug 15, 2003 01:17 PM

actually I had no intention of keeping any snakes together I was just curious about canibalism in the species in general. I may get another P. regius though, it's tempting

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