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I have read the law through the link provided on the forum on kingsnake.com. The impression I get from it is that you do not need a commercial permit to sell non-native species since the page with the law clearly mentions that the commercial permit is only needed if you want to sell native species. This is where I saw that a commercial permit is not needed:

"4) Commercial captive wildlife permit.

(a) A commercial wildlife permit shall be required for persons wishing to sell, offer to sell, trade, or barter native wildlife. A person shall not sell, offer to sell, trade, or barter native wildlife or parts thereof, obtained from the wild."

I'm still unclear about the vet inspection though. Does every last one of your animals have to be inspected by a vet? If so, why would you need a vet certificate for an animal that you don't even need any type of permit for? Like a bearded dragon, ball python, leopard gecko, or blue-tongued skink. You can own as many of these as you want and are not required to have any type of permit, yet, it would be messed up if you had to get a vet certificate for them. Basically, I just want someone to clarify the vet inspection thing for me since the law doesn't really make it quite clear.

The impression that I get from the law is that only animals coming into the state will need a vet inspection certificate.

"e) All shipments of wildlife shall be accompanied by a certificate of veterinary inspection stating that the wildlife is free of symptoms of disease. A federal quarantine certificate may be substituted for the veterinarian’s certificate."

Does this "wildlife" only have to do with native ones or all animals. The impression that I get from reading this law is that it only really pertains to native wildlife. Since many times throughout the law, it mentions just "wildlife" but later adds on "native wildlife". I'm just kinda confused. Let me know if any one here can help me understand this law better.

Most states are adopting this Vet. cerificate requirement for any animal (native or not) entering their state. They are worried about animals getting loose and spreading a disease that the native animals would have no immunity to. It is , however, a ludicrus law since most Vets will merely glance at the animal(s) & determine whether they are healthy or not. If one were to do a fecal or bloodwork on any reptile, I don't believe that ANY herp would test negative for all parasites, bacteria, virus, etc. In other words, they can't outlaw reptiles outright but they are trying to make it as difficult as possible to conduct normal practices & maintain a collection.

The place where this law is going to matter the most is at reptile shows. People who bring their reptiles from another state must have a vet certificate and a transportation permit ($25). Many states require this for other kinds of animals (horses, cattle, etc.). The vet certificate entails a vet visually inspecting all of your animals and filling out a USDA form. This usually runs around $25-$50 depending on how much time it takes and the vet. Otherwise I don't think thsi will matte rmuch. Besides they are moving the Kentucky Reptile Show to avoid this law.

Besides they are moving the Kentucky Reptile Show to avoid this law.

That sounds like a smart move. Any KY resident that buys in Indiana will still have to get an import permit and vet certification to bring their animals into the state. Yeah, that's real smart, make it easy on the whiney a$$ vendors and pass it off to the consumer. I guess it depends on how the show organizer makes the most money... from vendors or door admission. But I will tell you this.. without buyers you vendors are SOL. You will lose any law abiding KY buyers if the show moves.

I am one of the vendors who is from Kentucky and I am fighting to keep the show in Kentucky. I just started my business and losing the show would kill alot of my business. I started after seeing all of the vendors sold snakes and not much else. I am trying to sell stuff that is different or at least higher quality.

People should really get their facts straight before spreading rumors about a show moving.

Yes, this was an "Idea", but Jason and Jamie decided to keep the show in Shelbyville.
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