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I'll ask again. Do all black pastels have clear bellies?
Thanks in advance.
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Not a Black Pastel but here is a Cinnamon if that would help


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Vince Pramuk

You made 'em first, tell us!

According to SATANs book, the cinnamon and black pastel are similar snakes from 2 diff bloodlines, kinda like a graziani pastel vs. a NERD pastel.

"The belly is also an unpatterned, creamy white. [...] Cinnamon Pastels are extremely similar to the Black Pastel, but possess a greater intensity of reddish-brown pigment. The Black Pastel seems to lack the red and the head may appear more black than brown."

So I think your answer is yes, they *should* have a clear belly.

If I'm wrong someone please tell me!

~jenny
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I would have to disagree I think every black pastel I have seen has more of a red hue to the color of the actual pattern and the cinnamon is more of a lighter color. Thats why I prefer the blacks over the cinnys but I do own a male cinny and a male black. But its only my opinion, and you know what they say about opinions. LOL
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Damian Macioce
www.strongholdreptiles.com

I have a male breeder cinnamon that has a solid cream belly not even a fleck of black, i also have a female with a pretty clean belly. But i do have 4 babies from 06 that all have speckled bellies.
I will try and take pics of them tonight.
Thanks Kim
N.A.R.C

Well I don't have a black pastel - but since Cinnys are a variation of the same morph (supposedly) here is my Cinny Belly:

Hope it helps....
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Tosha
JET Pythons

Sorry I haven't been on this week, been way too busy. But to answer your question, they do have a patternless belly. They have a little pattern on the sides but still a patternless belly. The pics of the Cinny's here are very close to what a Black Pastels belly looks like. They are a variation of the same mutation. Hope this helped, have a great weekend!, Brian (BHB)