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I think a few years ago, the Lucy was the Pinnicle (or Pinnical?) for Ball breeders. Is it still? It seems like the first Lucy was produced, and almost overnight, three or four new ways were found to produce them. Do people still like the Lucy, or have they reached "boring white snake" status? I personally like the clean look, but wonder if they are a dead end as far as a Super, or if people really still like them and think a Pastel Lucy will be cool, or ...?

What about the Ivory, I honestly like the look, and once that Ben Siegel showed pics of one time was amazing? If you had to put a number 1 and number 2 in front of the Lucy and the Ivory, and rank them, what would you rank them. I guess it could be 1,2 and three, if you count the Blue and Black Eyed Lucies as two separate snakes, and I guess you should.

Does anyone have a Snow project going still, and how is it going? Those that have the snows, how do they compare to the Lucy and Ivory in looks, and in what they can do for a breeding project?

Dave

white is white.........cool......but white........a good pied is white too but adds some color to the pic,.......for some people a ood pied is their top goal......others it will be a good bumblebee maybe.......I love coral glows.....honeybees.....mmmm....oh crap....what about the super phantom......crystal.......damn........even a good SPOG......or a pastel butterscotch/yellow/green/orange ghost......

I gotta stop....I'm gonna cry.....I don't have room for that many hundred cages........

HHHAAAAAAAA

really........there are so many colors out there.......but white snakes can still be made for less than $2G in so many different ways........and that is last years prices.....this year maybe you can start a white snake for $1G.........

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I am just wondering how can you do this make whites for 1grand , please tell me how ?the only way I can see this done is by purchasing HETS.

Dougal,
I think what he was referring to was the mojave and last year they were available for a short time for less than 2k for a pair.And could be as low as 1k a pair...this season..

www.kmsreptiles.com

I think everybody will want a Lucy or two in their collection and demand should outweight supply for a few more years.

The snow projects out there are the ones that were started before Lucies came around. Faster to create a white snake with co-dominant animals.

The holly grail of ball pythons right now has got to be Coral Glows

How do you make a coral glow?

I think they have lost their "Mystique", but I'd still put them on my top 5 ( whether it be an Ivory or Blue/Black eyed Lucies )

With over 4 lines and a number of different combo options of white snakes to have come out in the last 3 years, they are a dime a dozen now and are far from being the pinnacle.......

The snow is the big one
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beats a snow

so does pastel crystal

even bumlebees .....yep
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I would love to see the LA Snow.......
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...typo I thinkm ..Lav?....

still a snow........

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LA= Lavender Albino
X
Axanthic

Perhaps a very light Lavender animal

I appriciate any 1 in 16 animal
like the LA x Pied
albino x stripe.......
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Should be some good looking animals.

I agree a 1 in 16 animals is always nice.

God Bless

Derek
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Totally agree....
pastel banana
clown banana
and PIEDS.......
those are 10-15 year from now $250 pet shop snakes....will replace albino burms.....etc

I'll take 10 dozen then!!!!!!!!!!

I've never been a fan of the elusive White Balls including the Snow - they've never really been jaw dropping gorgeous to me - I much prefer the Ivory or some of the neat pattern on white balls like the Powerball and Crystal. Now that the white ball has been done to death I see more people focusing on multi combos. JMO
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Tosha
JET Pythons

I agree with Tosha. I like the Ivory better. The pinnacle for me is a tie between the Crystal and the Pastel Crystal.
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The Voices have won!

jeff pfeifer

well I'm a huge fan of the crystal and even more of a fan of the SSYB and a great pastel is awesome, so let's say a pastel crystal super stripe is the pinacle for me or even a pastel superstripe should rock.
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Josh & Krysty Hutto
J&K Reptiles

Various Ball Pythons:::

1.0 striped vanilla
1.0 spider
1.2 Citrus Ghost and hets
1.2 Albino and hets
2.3 het Pied
0.6 50% poss het pied
1.1 Pastel (male has additional gene going on with him)
a bunch of normal female breeders
a bunch of normal female holdbacks and several rescued normal males

0.1 columbian boa, she's a feeding monster, controls my
over production of rats, lol
0.1 brazilian rainbow boa, another rat eating monster
1.1 corns

a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrier as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!

The original SSYB produced by RPR is still the benchmark!! What will come from breeding that to ?????

I think it is the super cinny lavender albino...none done yet as far as I know.

what is the coolest looking ball python debate my vote would have to be the KENTE ball/ rainbow pied. It doesn't need any crosses to make it look cool.