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I own a pair of dwarf burms with the male about 4' and female 5'. they are 3 years old. i was wondering if we should actually be calling them burms and breeding them into burm lines? my dwarf burms certainly don't act like normal burms. my male is very aggressive, the female pretty aggressive but slightly more tractable. their eyes and nostrils are placed slightly differently. they are placed more along the lines of where a more ambush ground dwelling leaf litter species would have theirs. in addition their patterns are similar to but different than a burmese. no closer in my opinion than any of the molurus sub-species. i'm wondering if we're diluting the blood-lines by crossing them over? again since these afaik exist only in the pet trade and not to science it would be great if we could get some kind of taxonomical classification and then ask the question again as to wheteher or not should be cross breeding these making albinos. again afaik we aren't breeding albino and green burms into indian pythons and ceylonese pythons and calling them as such, which would be what we're doing to the dwarf burms. just my 2cents

Who says nobody has albino Indians?

The EU has already classified The Dwarf Burmese as a seperate Sub Spp. And genetic research is also being done here in the US to see if our taxonomists agree... Should be released information in just a few months.
As far as breeding them to regular burmese.. I dont really see an argument for not doing it. The Market will be demanding these critters in huge numbers especially if they are re-classified in the US. They will not necessarily fit into thew burmese and large Constrictor Bans that we are seeing in some states; and no doubt will see more of in following years. Besides they should be really neat and Different from the regular morphs . The Dwarf colors patterns and other characteristics are bound to make some really neat Granites albinos and Yellow Jackets hypos Labrynths and more....
I do also see a good reason to breed them true. as there are very few, and being from a small island they could go extinct quickly in the wild... We need to do both... Make Dwarf morphs and Make Pure Dwarfs.... Just my .02 cents.
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Michael Cole
Ballroom Pythons South
863-439-3015
WWW.BallroomPythonsSouth.com

the problem I see with crossing them into the burm morphs is that they will no longer be considered true dwarf burms anymore which legislators will probably use to keep them on the ban. Even if you get up to 75% dwarf, they will say and assume the 25% of true burm will cause them to get to a larger size. Besides, IMO the dwarfs have a look to them that I like alot and see no need to change it, just get them a little more available.
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Josh & Krysty Hutto
J&K Reptiles

Various Ball Pythons:::

1.0 striped vanilla
1.0 spider
1.2 Citrus Ghost and hets
1.2 Albino and hets
2.3 het Pied
0.6 50% poss het pied
1.1 Pastel (male has additional gene going on with him)
a bunch of normal female breeders
a bunch of normal female holdbacks and several rescued normal males

0.1 columbian boa, she's a feeding monster, controls my
over production of rats, lol
0.1 brazilian rainbow boa, another rat eating monster
1.1 corns

a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrier as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!