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het-red anxantics

fullhousereptile May 14, 2007 12:48 AM

I was reading about these snakes in earlier posts. I have a male that looks exactly like one from Corey Woods post. It is a ringer as well. I was wondering what are the chances that this is so? It is a black back, blushing in the black areas on the back, more with age. He has speckling areas, like small groups of black scales around the main black spots on his side. Plus he is a ringer, just slightly, in the area around the vent. When he hatched a year ago, he was way different looking compared to his siblings. So I kept him and sold the rest.
I have his mother and father. The mother came from Pirro from New York, and the father is a mojave from Petros from northren Illinois.
How could I prove him? Just breed him back to his mom, like I planned on? What is the difference from anxantic and red anxantic? Can I prove him from a reg anxantic or does it have to be a red anxantic?
Another big breeder said that he would keep it if it was a female, but I choose to keep the male anyway. For any other reason because he was a ringer. Any info would be wonderful. Thanks.

Replies (6)

idealreptiles May 14, 2007 01:31 AM

Hey,
Pictures speak more then words.
Post some of him.
It's like a mime trying to be a language teacher.
In the end, you have to line breed him to be sure (breed him back to one of his daughters)

Red-axanthics are produced by two black-backed het. red-axanthics aka: Cory Woods line of luckily acquired black-backs from Snake keeper.
They have nothing to do with the b&w, yellow lacking axanthic line we you are thinking about (from: Joliff, Snake Keeper and/or VPI lineage)
Breed two black-back het reds (from Corey Woods line) together and you have a good chance of producing red axanthics.

Breed any other two Poss. Het reds together and produce what looks a lot like a red axanthic... and you still don't have a true red axanthic. (Sorry Ron)

True reds are only produced in Canada.
Sorry, and best of luck.
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Horridus May 14, 2007 09:14 AM

>>True reds are only produced in Canada

I wasn't aware Ralph had relocated.

idealreptiles May 14, 2007 10:03 AM

I have a feeling there's a lot of things you aren't aware of...

Horridus May 15, 2007 08:39 AM

"I have a feeling there's a lot of things you aren't aware of..."

Yeah, you are probably right LOL, but I do know there's animals of the "red axanthic" and "het red axanthic" mutation out there in people's collections and in the wild. Where did the original animals come from? Think there's a chance there's more out there? But hey, they aren't real Red Axanthics right?

RinL May 14, 2007 06:53 PM

there are true het reds being produced in the US. But to call them het reds they must come from a proven line,that is Corey's line. I purchased a het red male from Ralph (which is Corey's line) and have produced a number of het reds.

idealreptiles May 14, 2007 10:23 PM

It was a joke!
What science would it be based on otherwise?
I was stoked to see that Ralph had produced a few reds...

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