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Not even sure how I feel about the whole deal and not looking for opinions on if it's a good or bad thing but with all the crosses, how about a Carpet x Srub?? A nice Jungle x Mollucan could be a sight (who knows??) Maybe one of the Patternless Tanimbars with a high color Carpet someday?? Just a thought. I don't know diddly squat but it would seem fairly reasonable to think such breedings could work out. Hmmmmm??

Actually, the carpet X scrub cross has been done. I will have to see if I can find the thread (not on this website) and email a link to you, or maybe someone else will. In my oppinion it turned out to be interesting, but nothing to write home about. I think the carpet used was an IJ, don't remember which scrub was used.

Also, many other python crosses have been done, including a woma X carpet cross. And as far as the taxonomists tell us, womas and carpets come from the two python genera that are the most distantly related. So, is sounds like as long as size doesn't prohibit a cross, probably most python crosses will work...but you never know until you try.
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Ben
www.australianaddiction.com

Mardy up in Canada did it, it was a coastal carpet and a Mollucan. "moons"

Cheers

I am not anti-hybrid at all...but I would suggest that you stick to the more commonly available animals (ie: not nauta, etc.)It will save you a little headache I think.

Hey Ben- Isn't Python the most derived genus (vs. Morelia)-or am I incorrect?
(Fellow snake nerd nit picking...lol...not arguing...)
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Ben Team
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New Paradigm Herpetoculture
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Ben,

Actually, Python and Morelia are sister taxa, so neither is more derived than the other. At least the last time I checked the literature (phylogeny below), so unless anyone has done a big python phylogeny lately that I didn't hear about, they would be the same. The data show that the latest divergence in pythons led to both the genera Python and Morelia, so you can't really say either is more derived than the other because they came from the same ancestor. Does that make sense? Once either of them becomes multiple genera, then you could say that one would be more derived, but until then they would be equal. I hope that is making sense And all this is according to what is known right now, but further research could very well show that we have been incorrect, although with Aspidites having some "venom glands" I think that would be further evidence that Aspidites is for sure the most basal...but who knows if Python and Morelia are really the most derived. Time will tell. And if anyone does have a more recent python phylogeny I would love to see it. I haven't poked around the literature for a few months, so something could have come up, but this one by Kluge is the one that most people go by that I know of.

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Ben
www.australianaddiction.com

Then there's the ball/woma cross that NERD produced.
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1.1 Blackheaded pythons
1.1 Woma
2.1 Aussie Olives
1.1 Timors
1.1 Bloods
1.1 Balls
2.1 IJ Carpets
1.1 Coastal Carpets
1.2 Macklotts
1.1 Papuan Olives
2.0 Jungle Carpet
0.1 Carpondro
2.2 Scrubs (on breeding loan)
0.1 Jungle/Diamond cross
.1 Brazilian Rainbow boas
0.1 child, CB
0.1 wife, WC

Actually, my large female Carpondro and my male jungle have been mating almost constantly since I got her in April. That might prove interesting.
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1.1 Blackheaded pythons
1.1 Woma
2.1 Aussie Olives
1.1 Timors
1.1 Bloods
1.1 Balls
2.1 IJ Carpets
1.1 Coastal Carpets
1.2 Macklotts
1.1 Papuan Olives
2.0 Jungle Carpet
0.1 Carpondro
2.2 Scrubs (on breeding loan)
0.1 Jungle/Diamond cross
.1 Brazilian Rainbow boas
0.1 child, CB
0.1 wife, WC

Not a big fan of Carpondros personally, but I hope any offspring display more contrast and yellow from the extra Jungle influence. Good luck.

I haven’t found any. You would think if it were possible, some one would have tried it with a carpet.

Would that be cool or what!?!

LOL!