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Kleio and kuestion!

mobius May 15, 2007 08:31 AM

Heylas all-- got a new digital camera, and what better way to try it out than by taking a million and one photos of my Kleio?!
I've had her about 7 months now.
Question-- how old are beardies usually when breeders sell them?

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0.2 cats (Pandora & Journey)
0.1 bearded dragon (Kleio)
0.0.1 green tree frog (Squishy)
0.0.3 fishes (namoli, Asana, Adagio)

Replies (10)

jakentbc May 15, 2007 10:13 AM

breeders usually try to sell as soon as possible....less babies means less crickets to feed super hungry mouths. Usually breeders wait until after the first shed...so 6-8 weeks.

your dragon seems a little skinny
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a free range dragon is a happy dragon

mobius May 15, 2007 03:23 PM

Yes, she is a bit underweight (tho, she looks way skinnier in this pic than she actually is-- I think it's the angle and the branch she's sitting on)-- I was weaning her off insects a few weeks ago, but it didn't go so well. And then when I put them back in her diet, she decided she didn't want greens any more. So she lost a bit of weight. (heh, thus the orange crusty on her mouth-- baby food) But she's back to eating greens *and* bugs again, and is starting to gain it back.
I dunno why, she's always been on the skinny side tho.

>>breeders usually try to sell as soon as possible....less babies means less crickets to feed super hungry mouths. Usually breeders wait until after the first shed...so 6-8 weeks.
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>>your dragon seems a little skinny
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>> a free range dragon is a happy dragon
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0.2 cats (Pandora & Journey)
0.1 bearded dragon (Kleio)
0.0.1 green tree frog (Squishy)
0.0.3 fishes (namoli, Asana, Adagio)

beachbeardies May 16, 2007 12:22 AM

why would you ever ween a dragon off insects in the first place???
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Beach Beardies

2.2. bearded dragons
1.1. Sugar Gliders
0.2. Felines *queen athena and missy*

BDlvr May 16, 2007 05:06 AM

Yea. I was wondering about that too. I feed my dragons live food their whole life. I have a target weight for each and when they fall below it I increase the frequency of the live food and if they exceed it I cut back but never completely. In my case it might be as little as 6 crickets, 2 silkworms, 1 big hornworm, or 5 superworms a day.

Food diversity is very important for good health, they are omnivores not herbivores.

mobius May 16, 2007 04:04 PM

I meant crickets-- weaning her off crickets. Cuz they are annoying and have the tendency to get loose and drive the cats bonkers. (Well, the cats probably quite enjoy them, but their enjoyment of chasing the crickets drives ME bonkers!!) I reread my post and it was misleading. In my head, I classify crickets and crawly things as insects and worms as...worms.

And, I've read that adult beardies generally have a diet of 90% greens, thus the weaning down as she gets older.

And randomly, as a side note-- wow, this forum isn't exactly the friendliest place to learn about things. Geez. Instead of a "oh my goodness, you're an EVIL PERSON" tone when responding to people, how about more of a "hmm, maybe you might want to rethink that" tone?

I mean goodness, all I wanted to do was show a picture, and I feel rather attacked for having done so, although I'm sure that wasn't anyone's intention.

I know many people here have owned and cared for beardeds and other animals for probably longer than I've been alive and I certainly respect and value the wealth of experience available thru this forum. But at times, people are just downright condescending. If I were a newbie, I wouldn't stay around too long, for fear of being criticized for making one tiny mistake.

Of course, that's just my take on it. And it's based on months of observation, not just my latest posts.

Be well

>>Yea. I was wondering about that too. I feed my dragons live food their whole life. I have a target weight for each and when they fall below it I increase the frequency of the live food and if they exceed it I cut back but never completely. In my case it might be as little as 6 crickets, 2 silkworms, 1 big hornworm, or 5 superworms a day.
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>>Food diversity is very important for good health, they are omnivores not herbivores.
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0.2 cats (Pandora & Journey)
0.1 bearded dragon (Kleio)
0.0.1 green tree frog (Squishy)
0.0.3 fishes (namoli, Asana, Adagio)

BDlvr May 16, 2007 06:06 PM

I think you're reading into it to much. That certainly wasn't my intent. The written word often sounds hasher than the spoken word since you cannot hear voice inflections etc.

I guess you could have said that you were changing them from crickets to ? and I and others wouldn't have been confused.

beachbeardies May 17, 2007 12:50 AM

"""And randomly, as a side note-- wow, this forum isn't exactly the friendliest place to learn about things. Geez. Instead of a "oh my goodness, you're an EVIL PERSON" tone when responding to people, how about more of a "hmm, maybe you might want to rethink that" tone?

I mean goodness, all I wanted to do was show a picture, and I feel rather attacked for having done so, although I'm sure that wasn't anyone's intention. """

response - you cant always take whats typed that way. hell if that happened i would have left along time ago, or be in jail by now. haha. its hard to judge someones attitude by what they type on a computer. its not that the experienced breeders here are giving an attitude at all, most do not, but the ones that may seem so, you have to understand have been here for years dealing with "newbies" and probably some people who should not own a a gold fish, let alone a bearded dragon. i have been on this site for about 2 years or so now and i have run into alot of those people myself. i have also run into many who disagree with things that i do or others do. for example the minimum housing area for an adult dragon, the type of UVB bulb, and the biggest of them all....SAND AS A SUBSTRATE. (i wont even get into that.)

but anyways, dont be afraid to ask anything, the only stupid question is one thats not asked. there may be some constructive criticism given, like the poster saying your dragon looks a little skinny in that pic. and i will even agree in that angle he does look skinny. but you can take that a bad way.
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Beach Beardies

2.2. bearded dragons
1.1. Sugar Gliders
0.2. Felines *queen athena and missy*

jakentbc May 16, 2007 09:32 AM

are you sure that she is a she....looks like a male from the picture....although I am just baseing this on the appearance of the spikes around the head.

Are there one or two lumps distal to the anal vent?
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a free range dragon is a happy dragon

mobius May 16, 2007 04:04 PM

last I checked, she was a she...

>>are you sure that she is a she....looks like a male from the picture....although I am just baseing this on the appearance of the spikes around the head.
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>>Are there one or two lumps distal to the anal vent?
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>> a free range dragon is a happy dragon
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0.2 cats (Pandora & Journey)
0.1 bearded dragon (Kleio)
0.0.1 green tree frog (Squishy)
0.0.3 fishes (namoli, Asana, Adagio)

BDlvr May 16, 2007 06:08 PM

Have any of them ever laid eggs?

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