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Hello Everyone!

Below are pics of my bearded dragons, the female (Roxy) is the top one and the male (Draco) is on the bottom. I know they are a bit dusty as i just took the pics now.

I bought them around late 2005 from my pet shop that ive been going to for years now. i fell in love with them the second i saw them and had hopes for breeding them. never happened =(

I bought them both as adults and they told me they were abt two years old (both of them). in the spring / summer of 2006 the female had these spaz attacks. she would start bobbing her head and kicking up sand and then out of nowhere attack the male. she would get on top of him, give him a lick and then start biting him. im assuming this is breeding / territorial issues.

I had to stick my hand in there and stop her from doing it, but sure enough a few minutes later she was at it again. Shes even gone so far as to take scales clean off the top of his head, they have grown back since last year but shes at it again. i just give him some neosporin.

Im trying to make space in my room to seperate the two of them but its kinda tough since i got so many herp. I own 2 Kenyan Sand Boas, a Corn & a BRB on top of the 2 Dragons.

Is there anything i can do in the meantime?????

Sounds like you have 2 males. I'd separate them right away if I were you. If they fight, they fight. Nothing you can do but separate them. I have a female that without a male present must be dominant and will attack a much larger female. The biting is sometimes false breeding with 2 females. This time of year when the females start producing eggs they get desperate to find a male and can cause this behavior between 2 females.

Check out this link to find out for sure.

http://www.dachiu.com/sexing.html

Also on the bottom of the rear legs and around the vent are pores. At their age males pores will have darkened and protrude somewhat. Males also put out a waxy substance from theirs. If the pores on both your dragons look about the same then you probably have 2 of the same sex. Also when males' beards get dark they generally get much darker than females. They get dark from the tip of the chin down including the top part of the chest. Females darken a little down from the chin and not on their chest at all.

Trust me ive gone through that already. i checked them again right now and i can assure you, its male and female. ive taken them to my vet and hes told me the same, male and female. ive taken them to two different places, besides my store, and they have all told me i have a male and a female.

Hi
they r pastel beardies right ?
clear nails? white?
i think youre male cant impressed her with normal a pitch black beard.
pastel beardie cant make them so black as notrmal beardies and that is what the gurls impressed by .

now the female wanna be dominant over the male .
youre male never headbobbed ??
if se stay doing that you need to split them .
byeeeee
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for the most part the nails on both of them are clear, minus a black line down the center.

and no ive never seen the mail headbob in return to her, but i have seen his beard turn as black as night before, sometimes when i take him outside to soak and sunbath. or sometimes i put them in a big clear container with some water to soak them indoors and clean them up a little bit and his beard has turned black there. im in the process of trying to make some more room to split them up.

any more ideas or suggestions would go a LONG way thank you!

If two dragons are always fighting the only solution is to separate them. Best thing to do is buy stackable cages or build one so you can house them one ontop of the other, which will help with space.

Both sexes will head bob, bite and mount and not have anything to do that relates to actual breeding. These are all dominance displays. only way to keep them from fighting is to put them into separate cages. if the cage you have is large enough, you can separate them by putting a divider (opaque and strong, so they can't knock it over or see through it). I dont' suggest a divider if it makes the cage smaller than 3'x2' per side and if its this small both sides, then its a temporary measure till you get two cages that are at least 4'x2'.

It is also possible this is normal mating behaviour as the male will mount the female, bite the scruff of her neck to keep her still wile he mounts her. Males can damage the neck in the process. If everybody you have checked have confirmed you have a male and female pair, then maybe you are just mixing up who's the male. If there is no doubt the female is the one being dominate, then she is not accepting the male as a mate, and wants to dominate him, and separating is necessary.

Bottom line, if there is fighting and one dragon is getting injured and picked up on all the time, it will not thrive and only wind up being overly stressed etc. So only solution is separate. There is no other solution,
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PHLdyPayne

I have to agree with what PHLdyPayne said, "she is not accepting the male as a mate, and wants to dominate him, and separating is necessary."

Have they not ever tried mating before now?

I suppose there's also the possibility that she's frustrated from being spurned by the male, him not wanting to mate with her. She could be telling him, "Hey, you idiot! This is what you're supposed to do!"

But definitely seperate them, for the time being, at least.

Hang in there!
HH
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It is said that 1 out of every 4 people are mentally unbalanced. Think of your 3 closest friends, if they're normal, then it's you.

Thank you everyone for your help im in the process of trying to make room in my part of the house for the other dragon. i appreciate everyones suggestions and comments.

thanks alot!

You're welcome!

Have they tried mating any time before this?
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It is said that 1 out of every 4 people are mentally unbalanced. Think of your 3 closest friends, if they're normal, then it's you.

unfortunately no, they have never tried to breed at all =( i was hoping they would as im sure the babies would be very good looking

They are both fine lookin' beardies, and healthy lookin', too. Like you, I think they would produce some nice younguns.

Has the female been the dominate one during feeding, being more of an aggressive feeder than the male?

Maybe the female's aggressive sexual behavior is a big turn-off for the male. I know I didn't like it very much when I first met my wife and she used to beat me up all the time. I've gotten used to it now, though.

There's a chance that if you keep them seperated for awhile it could spark more of a mating interest. When I did re-introduce them I would only let it be for a few minutes or so. If no mating desires are seen, seperate them for awhile longer.

Keep us posted and best wishes to ya!
HH
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It is said that 1 out of every 4 people are mentally unbalanced. Think of your 3 closest friends, if they're normal, then it's you.

Sounds like you have a very "butch" female.

You should probably buy her a girlfriend and be done with it.
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