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Ok, im sorry if Ive missed something where theres already been a post about this, but I just dont have time to look right now(exhausted) and Id like an answer to a question that just started bugging me... well not really a question, but any info regarding something I just saw would be nice.

Heres the deal:

Although its looked down on by many, I currently have a pictus and leo sharing a cage. As juvies they never fought and have lived together since both were no more than 2-3 months old and its been coming up on a year now. Both are males. I came to the realization lately that they have started fighting, by recording shortly after feeding with a video camera- the pictus, surprisingly enough, attacks and bites the leo(who is quite a bit larger at this point) when the leo goes to a certain spot in the cage. Im guessing this is territorial and coming as sexual maturity arises. The leo never fights back, simply runs to the other side of the cage.

This I dont mind, as Im soon going to be moving the pictus out to join a breeding colony (if I can ever find someone with females that ships to the US... any ideas here?).

The problem arose tonight when I decided to take out the leo to see his colors (WOW btw... they said this thing was albino, but I dont think it is). I rarely do this, as I feel is stresses the animals (and it stresses the crap outta me, as i have horrible short term memory).

Anyway, I got the lil guy out and was taking some pics when all of a sudden I notice something behind his left front leg. I got him into a position to get a better look as gently as I could, and still couldnt see much. What I THINK I saw, was what appeared to be a small hole in his skin. Upon checking the other leg, I found what appears to be another hole, in the same location.

What would this be caused by? Possibly the beetle stage of mealworms that have escaped and metamorphed? There are lots of em in the cage, but I throw in a few leafy greens every so often to give em something to munch on. Is it bad to have those beetles? Could they be munching my lil buy while he sleeps?

Could it have been caused by the pictus? Ive seen him grab the leo at about that spot during one of their fights, but it didnt look like a nasty enough attack to make a hole like this...

it was small, but round, almost looked like a puncture wound... no apperant blood, which is what made me really curious. dosnt appear to be damaged at all around the hole and he didnt seem to be favoring it in any way (ie, limping)... damn, i wish i would have taken a pic now.... maybe tmorrow ill take him out and get a pic to show you.

Any suggestions?

Well at this point I hope you have learned to listen to SOME people and not do what is seriously frowned upon.

Can you post pics, what I gather ( unless there is an obvious hole with blood ) it just seems like its arm pits. I have seen so many posts in the past with people being concerned about these little indents in the backside of the joint area.

lol its called an armpitt but its a good thing that you are concerned. it kinda freaked me out too once upon a time but luckily i had like 20 others to compare to.

LOL...I didnt notice that..LOL sometimes I get ahead of my self trying to multi task...yes I ment armpitt..LOL

LOL...

Im gonna go check it out again right now in better light (hard to use bright lights around him, as he obviously dislikes it).

I was tired, but I know what the armpit looks like- this is actually within that armpit area, in the very center of it. Looking back, Im thinking it might just be a spot of darker coloration in that area. His colors have suddenly exploded and im thinking it might just be a spot- kinda strange actually, as he was sold as an albino, but Im not sure what he is now... Ill try to post pic later if i have time.

Like I said, sorry if I wasted time, but I was kinda freaked. These 2 have never fought before, only in the last 2-3 weeks have begun showing aggresion, and only from the Pictus. Im guessing that means "hes become a man-gecko", lol... with any luck, he'll have a few ladies of his own soon.

Cool!

If you can get some pics up that would help with the confusion of its morph or color phase as well.

I can assure you this reason for them fighting is the fact they have matured, as I said it would be best for you to take them appart but dont feel I am bashing you or trying to tell you what to do..hehe.

No no, I agree- now that its started I wanna get them apart ASAP. I think its really strange that its only the Pictus with aggression though, as both are males and about the same age. The leo is bigger too, which blows my mind- how does the tiny pictus have the guts to body check a lizard that could prolly mess him up if it tried? lol... ballsy lil guy

I dont wanna move the pictus (ie stress) until Ive at least ordered his new female companions. The only person I got a response from gave me their paypal address, told me to send em $120 and wont response again, lol... dont suppose ANYONE knows someone that sells picti to the US?

The leos colors are really crazy- he used to be very light colored, but only recently exploded into yellows with darker spots. Im not sure if its just a regular leopard gecko, or something weird, but when I get pics up we can have a look-see, hehe

The yellows just recently appeared, as did most of the darker spots.

Older pic:

Im thinkin hes just a plain ol leopard gecko, which is fine with me.

Definitely a type of Albino! A very nice one man he/she is very nice, I wish I could see a good shot of it it looks relay cool.

Ill get some better shots later.

Was very pale when he was younger, with red eyes. Over time the red faded into a bright orange, and then slowly into a duller orange. The skin was at first completely pale, with almost no pattern, then a pattern began to slowly form (last pic was towards the end of that stage) and just recently bloomed into the nice yellows.

Interesting to know hes something cool.