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I notice my Bumble Bee always spins his head around is this normal? I read on some forum that if they carry the traits of the spider will inherit this.

None of my spiders do this but a heard some do. Not sure if I would breed it if I were you. Hope you didn't pay alot for it.
I am sure more in the know will chime in.

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Vince Pramuk

It's very common for spiders to have this behavior. For many the behavior will lessen or stop as the animal grows.

My understanding is that it is kind of inevitable. A non-spinner might produce a spinner and vice-versa.

I hope the info helps I'm sure there are others who can chime in.

I hope more people chime in because I am not sure I agree with "very common, inevitable" but I could be wrong seems like I lot of people have posted that they have never hatched babies with this problem. Would like to know what the % of spiders have this. I only have 1.1 adults and hatched out 1 clutch(.2 spiders)last year but none of them have the head wobbles all act perfectly normal.
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Vince Pramuk

100% of spiders do it to some degree. Many people don't notice it on spiders that only have minor problems but if you watch them at night and know what to look for you will see that they are not totally normal.
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John Vandegrift

Mine are in a display cage in my living room so I see them all the time(even at night)and haven't noticed anything guess I just don't know what to look for ??? They look perfectly normal to me, maybe I got the 1st one's ever without this problem..LOL
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Vince Pramuk

Some are as subtle as holding their head a little crooked and some lay with their head totally upside down. If you do a search on RDR message boards there is a really good thread that shows some examples of really bad ones.
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John Vandegrift

my spider wobles....from what I understand its most common from spider X spider crossing, so maybe it was a bee X bee or a Spider X bee...figure out what the parents were cause thats what I would think it is.

I have a bunch of spiders, 2 males that i originally bought a few years ago, one of them wobbled when he was younger and the other i did not notice anything when he was younger. The one that wobbled grew out of it as he got older and it is much less visable now. I breed both animals last year and this year. Last Year the one that had wobbled threw a clutch of all normal spiders, none that wobbled when they were younger, i also bred the same male to a pastel female and got a bumble bee, the Bee didnt wobble when he was younger but he is goofy when he is excited, which is the "wobbling" gene. Also in the same liter i got another normal spider with no wobble and one that did wobble when it hatched. Out of 6 female spiders all from different lines that i have bought over the past few years i have 3 that never wobbled 2 that did when younger and now it is not obvious and one that didnt when it was younger but now you can see a slight difference since she is older.

I have talked to Kevin about this situation many times and i agree wuth him it is inevitable that spiders wobble. Someone had said that they all do to some degree people just dont know what they are looking for. I agree 100% . I have pointed it out to people at shows that were selling their own offspring and didnt even pick up on it, it can be extremly slight unless you are aware of what it is, you may not ever notice it. Kevin had told me he has had the same results like i have had. Wobblers can throw wobblers or normals and so can normals. He says it just adds character and that is 100% true. My spiders that have had or still have or developed wobbles have 10 times more character then all of my other morphs.

If your Bee does wobble it is not a big deal, you can breed him and make amazing babies regardless of a wobble. Wobbles unless in extreme cases are not life threatining to the snake It just makes life more interesting ...

Kim
N.A.R.C
Sorry this ended up sooo long ..