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Hey anybody have any rediculous mishaps with USPS?? LOL i did today. I had 7 hawaiian D. Auratus supposed to show up on my front step today. Well.... i waited ALL day long, and never showed, so i decided to get online and track it. And of course, knowing my luck, it had been misrouted!! I don't see how it happens, but it does, and it's gonna be another 15 hours before i can even get my hands on the package that they're in, dead or alive. How long can frogs survive under those conditions? Anybody have any equally or exponentially worse experiences to tell about? How did they turn out?
thanks

As I said before I dont even have my poison darts yet but let me tell you about my expierience with other exotics. Normally after another 15 hours usually the animals come dehydrated I have seen very hardy animals survive 3 day delivery but these things are moisture sensitive. My opinion on the carriers is this.

Fedex = You will get your package on time but they have a habit of throwind packages around and things dont usualy get there intact.

UPS = arg.. dont even bother they wont get anyting on time..

USPS = again almost as bad as UPS , only with government workers

Airborn express = The holy grail this is what I use to ship animals and have never had a problem. I ordered a glass computer case and it came intact no problems with these guys.

Fedex- they have had 3 of my dads packages for nearly a week and just now delivered them! If they had been live animals theyd be dead. Also the packages set in there loading place only 15 miles away for those 4 days.

UPS - I work there! Im sure your place of buisness has a spotless record. *yes that is mean and sarcastic, but i gotta take up for us* But in my own personal experiance, i can honestly say i have never had a problem.

USPS- no problems

airborne- never used them.
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kungfu28181: My god. You are insane. -Mon Jun 30 21:41:05

I am VERY frastrated with several shippers right now.

USPS on Tuesday said they didn't have my package on the truck and when my G/F got home there was a noye saying we could pick it up the nexr day. Out of 5, 1 was dead. (OYAPOKS)

Today I am exspecting UPS to deliver and it is 8:30 or so and nothing yet. Possible 5 dead Alanis. Wouldn't want to be the driver when he gets here.

Thanks for letting mevent a little, as I am sure some of you can relate.

TonyT

well the driver isnt the guy to get mad at. They have nothing to do with how long it takes for it to ship. there job is to take it from the loading doak to your house. Call and speak to a manager or supervisor. But that does very little, dad did that and it still took 3 days before he got his package and it was mere miles away......

aj
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kungfu28181: My god. You are insane. -Mon Jun 30 21:41:05

In this case it was the driver because they were on his truck at 7:45am till 9:00 pm according to the Tracking history. He just didn't do his job. If they had not made it to the truck that would have been a different story.

TonyT

UPS didn't deliver they rescheduled to deliver me 5 dead alanis on monday. MAN THIS SUX!
Anybody wanna ask me who not to use?

TonyT

Dude, call them speak to a manager or supervisor on the loading dock! They work that loading dock 24/7.
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kungfu28181: My god. You are insane. -Mon Jun 30 21:41:05

Yeah dude you could just go pick them up right now if you wanted. I can't pick mine up because they haven't arrived. They get there at 3 in the morning so i hear, so i'm goin to pick them up at 7 am. Wish me luck! hopefully i find 7 healthy, live and well hawaiian d.auratus.

They're right, Tony. Definitely go to the loading dock asap. Don't let them tell you they can't find it, either. I worked at UPS for 3 years when I was in high school/junior college as a sorter/loader/supervisor. And let me tell you, just about nobody there gives a hoot about the packages. Thrown, kicked, rolled, you name it. As for the misdirected packages, you can blame that on the loaders. They are the last person who scans the package before they are loaded onto the truck. If a package comes to them off the conveyor belt and it isn't supposed to be going to that particular location, it's the loader's job to give it to the supervisor to take to the right truck. They're known as the "last line of defense" against misdirected packages. But I suppose it could also be the fault of a supervisor as well. Usually, however, the loader doesn't scan the package and just tosses it in, only to be scanned by the unloader at the next hub. By then, your package might be in Egypt.
I'm very sorry to hear you lost a tinc.
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Randy
Lawrence, Kansas
1.1 Azureus
1.1 Cobalt
1.1 Fantasticus
2.2 Bastimentos Pumilio
2.5 Bri Bri Pumilio
0.0.3 Mysteriosus

Thanks for the advice guys and Colby Poore is the gentleman I purchased the frogs from, and he was already on it. He got the supervisor to bring them to my house first thing this morning. I now am the proud owner of 5 healty Alanis.

Thanks again for all the advice and listening to me whine.

TonyT

good to hear that. I think it says something for the company when the supervisor/manager/some one in charge goes out of their way to make sure it gets done. I dont understand people that have jobs, most want to half way do it. I hate my job but i treat my customers with respect and go out of my way for them *unless they are pricks*

but thats me, there is always some one that can do your job better. you have to work hard.
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kungfu28181: My god. You are insane. -Mon Jun 30 21:41:05

Awesome to hear. Luckily, I have almost the same story. My frogs finally arrived in Nashville. And it would have been another day before they made it here, but my local post office said i could pick them up there, so we took off. I'm now the owner of 7 healthy and BEAUTIFUL sub-adult and adult Hawaiian Auratus. They're sooo active also. Theyre all over their tank.

Phew!! Happy to hear everyone's frogs arrived in good health.

I've had discus fish and many dart frogs sent to me over the years. UPS and FedEx had no problems, but USPS had several deliveries that took two days. For the frogs, if it was packaged well, two days should not be a problem; aleast for me. Just be ready to recieve them and baby them when you get them, that is if they arrive alive. So, things can turnout fine, maybe?! Hope things go well.

WM

also, when was this package mailed out? who did you order from?
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kungfu28181: My god. You are insane. -Mon Jun 30 21:41:05

I've used Airborne on five different occasions with no problem. I live way out in the boonies, so always arrange to pick them up at the receiving station (100 miles away) so they don't spend another many hours in truck transport. So far, the longest transport time from Missouri to Idaho has been less than 24 hours, and none have every been obviously stressed.
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Patty
Lost River, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
3 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
5 D. imitator
4 D. leukomelas
4 D. pumilio Bastimentos

I had a Galac. show up to my work dead. The person who i bought it from sent it in a regular envelope through the mail. The heat pack that he sent with it wasn't even broke (in the middle of winter). Anyway, the frog was destoned to die the second it was placed in the evelope withought a supporting container. ( It was smashed when i opened the envelope). WHY WOULD ANYONE SHIP AN ANIMAL IN AN ENVELOPE??????

thats awful. i was going to make joke but it wouldnt be taken kindly i dont think.......

so did you get your $ back or what?
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kungfu28181: My god. You are insane. -Mon Jun 30 21:41:05

i lost a pair of cobalts because for some reason they were 3 daays late in arriving. then my claim was misfiled or some b.s. like that i i couldn't get the money back. thankfully the breeder is giving my 2 azureus for it.
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Nate
1.1 alanis tincs
0.0.2 Azureus (soon)
0.0.2 imitators very very soon

Whoever sent you that frog in an envelope has got to be too stupid to cross a street by himself and live, let alone have the knowledge to keep dart frogs. How in the world did he/she manage to keep the frog alive long enough to even ship it in the first place if that person didn't even know this would surely kill the frog? The frog was of course probably already dead before it went through the postal stamping machine. Like AJ, I can think of some very sick jokes about this, but they wouldn't be funny to any froggers, only obscene. This is like an excerpt from "The World's Dumbest Criminals."

Mine arrive in individual small plastic cups of damp oak leaves or other damp foliage with an airhole in the lid. The cups are clear so you can see the frogs inside before releasing them. These are packed tightly with crumpled paper in a styrofoam cooler with a cool pack. My supplier doesn't ship to cold areas in winter at all. He ships only when the weather on both ends is not extreme. The cooler in turn, fits perfectly into a sturdy cardboard box with warnings of which side should be up. They are sent Airborne over-night express on the late afternoon flight so they arrive at the pick up destination the next morning and I'm informed of the exact time they will arrive so I can pick them up.

I can't imagine paying for some very deilicate, expensive frogs, then being frugal about shipping them. (Not that you did this-- your supplier did.)

That one was a shocker! If I were on the shipper's jury, I'd vote guilty and recommend the death penalty-- by dehydration.
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Patty
Lost River, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
3 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
5 D. imitator
4 D. leukomelas
4 D. pumilio Bastimentos