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I am sure you remember the male Brazilian I got from you. I have noted that about 5 weeks ago his colors have change to the likeness of an anery. ( I do not think the snake is anery). The spots on his sides around his crescent has become solid white. They are usually red/orange looking depending on the snakes coloration. I have only raised a handful of Brazilians so, I never seen or heard of such a dramatic color change in an adult, he is definitely an Adult ( over ready for next season ) When I purchased him they where ared/orange, now they are bright white, and like I said his background color has changed to an anery type of color....

below Pic is to refresh you memory ( not saying you need memory refreshing). BTW this is not a temp / darkness color change, the snake has definitely changed colors. I would not say it is a permanent color change, due to the fact he changed colors as an adult already and may reinvent himself again. I do not own a camera yet ( slower than most people in the technological department) so no pic's are available at this time.

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Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

Frank,
...This is very interesting. My anerythristic looking male Santarem was born in 2003 or 2004 (I am trying to remember which) and he looked normal colored for his first 18 months. The male I sold to you may be from the same litter. A couple of my breeder males came from Tom Davis and he has said that he think all the fuss over morphs is silly because he has had several snakes turn very light colored as they age. One of those males may have fathered these snakes. Hmmmm?
Jeff

>>I am sure you remember the male Brazilian I got from you. I have noted that about 5 weeks ago his colors have change to the likeness of an anery. ( I do not think the snake is anery). The spots on his sides around his crescent has become solid white. They are usually red/orange looking depending on the snakes coloration. I have only raised a handful of Brazilians so, I never seen or heard of such a dramatic color change in an adult, he is definitely an Adult ( over ready for next season ) When I purchased him they where ared/orange, now they are bright white, and like I said his background color has changed to an anery type of color....
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>>below Pic is to refresh you memory ( not saying you need memory refreshing). BTW this is not a temp / darkness color change, the snake has definitely changed colors. I would not say it is a permanent color change, due to the fact he changed colors as an adult already and may reinvent himself again. I do not own a camera yet ( slower than most people in the technological department) so no pic's are available at this time.
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>>Thanks,
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>>Frank Roberts
>>Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research
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Jeff - any chance the male I got from you will turn light????

BTW - he is doing very well. He has always ate, never bitten, and loves his moss box. He is my step-daughter's favorite and I am thankful you handled it enough so it is really calm. I have no problems having my step-daughter around him.
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Mike

1.1 BRB
1.2 Spotted Python
1.0 Cal. King

Mike,
..The mother of the snake I sold to you is a normal good looking orange-red animal. I am not sure which male fathered your snake. My only male that. I use the orgy system letting as many males as possible mate with each female.
Jeff

>>Jeff - any chance the male I got from you will turn light????
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>>BTW - he is doing very well. He has always ate, never bitten, and loves his moss box. He is my step-daughter's favorite and I am thankful you handled it enough so it is really calm. I have no problems having my step-daughter around him.
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>>Mike
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>>1.1 BRB
>>1.2 Spotted Python
>>1.0 Cal. King

The below posts about a POS for BRB's got me thinking and I was wondering in you experience, on average how many times will a female shed during pregnancy?
Also I seem to remember a picture on you site in the past of a stiped BRB. I was thinking it was on the upper right of one of the pages. Was this yours, or am I thinking of another site?
Thanks, Milo

Milo,
...I used to keep accurate records of shed and feeding dates and have a large notebook that includes info for females that laid upwards of 40 litters during the years I was recording the information. I have had them shed from one to four times between last observed breeding and parturition but three seems to be the common number. I have also had many litters born while the female was opaque prior to shedding. Because of that variation in number of sheds I saw no correllation like in Bci breeding to predict birth dates. The best predicter I saw was that nearly all BRB litters were laid around 5.5 months after last observed mating.
Jeff

>>The below posts about a POS for BRB's got me thinking and I was wondering in you experience, on average how many times will a female shed during pregnancy?
>>Also I seem to remember a picture on you site in the past of a stiped BRB. I was thinking it was on the upper right of one of the pages. Was this yours, or am I thinking of another site?
>>Thanks, Milo

Thanks,
I have only one female that has bred multiple times to compare from year to year. But she seems to have 3 sheds after the last breeding attempt, before birth. I was just wondering if this was first normal, and second if maybe the telltale shed wasn't post ovulation or post, post ovulations or a even a prelay shed or something other than the first that could be used to mark a due date.
I know with BCI I have always read that after the post ovulation shed, a small percentage will have an intermediate shed. For me an intermediate seems to be the norm, not the exception with my BCI's. I've wondered if the intermediate could be timed to anything related to the birthing process.
It will be interesting to see how everyones litters come out this year in terms of timing.

something going on with his coloration, time will tell just what it is...
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Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research