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Eastern / Texas Collared lizards

bseery Aug 15, 2003 08:30 PM

What is the difference ?

We have 2 males and a female that were sold to us as "Eastern".
I am looking at an add to buy 3 more females, so I have 2 females and a male in each cage, and they say they are "Texas" collared lizards.
To me, they look the same, just different colors. In fact, buy this coloring, the female that I have now looks just like these "texas" lizards. She is light cream with dark brown and tan spotting and gets orange spots when gravid.

Is there a diff? Or is it all just coloring ? Would there be any breeding / compatibility problems?

Replies (9)

DC Aug 15, 2003 09:16 PM

Texas is blessed by at least two native species of collared lizards, neither of which is found in what is considered East Texas LOL. What the term Eastern/Texas collared lizards probably means is Eastern Collared Lizards FROM Texas. Or, "regular" or "common" collared lizards, Crotaphytus collaris. The range of colors you can find in "Texas collareds" seems pretty varied. I have three males bred from Texas parents, and all three are totally different.
This is one of them....

DC

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I've got the blues...LOL...them screamin' yellow-head blues...

ETChipotle Aug 15, 2003 10:05 PM

Beautiful Blue!
Have you been feeding him Cobalt 60?
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ETChipotle

bseery Aug 15, 2003 11:16 PM

Sorry--my mistake.

I meant to say that the two males that we have were sold to us as Eastern Collared. The one female we have was also sold to us as an Eastern Collared, however now it looks like her coloring is more the Texas Collared. Is there a compatibility problem with breeding an Eastern Collared to a Texas Collared because we are thinking of buying three more females that are being described as Texas Collared.

DC Aug 16, 2003 07:44 AM

Is there a compatibility problem with breeding an Eastern Collared to a Texas Collared because we are thinking of buying three more females that are being described as Texas Collared.

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The odds are that anything described as a "Texas" collared *IS* an Eastern collared. Same species, the Texas part is just a 'marketing' label, there is no distinct species called a Texas collared. Like I said, the color variations in the Texas populations seem highly unpredictable. Some can be solid yellow, some like mine have no trace of yellow at all. I suppose it all comes down to the honesty and knowledgability of your source; there is no problem with incompatibility if they actually are what they are represented to be.

I suppose you could call a C. reticulatus the *real* Texas collared, since I don't believe it is found in any other state in the U.S.

Its *Very* unlikely you will be offered one for sale LOL.

DC

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I've got the blues...LOL...them screamin' yellow-head blues...

eve Aug 16, 2003 06:55 AM

Is that alittle yellow I see on his head LMAO Hey how those yellerheads doing? Kinky is eating daily, dont really have any say in the matter, hehehhehe Eve

DC Aug 16, 2003 08:49 AM

....his buds, the 'left-behinds', seem to be doing pretty well. The female Utah looks much better, she is nailing crickets on the sly. I have actually seen both males eat, which is a good thing LOL. They all seem very shy and reluctant to eat with anyone watching, but are eating well, mostly in private.
Hamlet *is* getting very blue, for a youngster LOL. Sunshine and a bit of exercise really bring it out, and you've seen how I feed my crickets.... I do give them a bit of repti-color on vitimin dust day also. I'm gonna say its primarilly genetics, since there are a couple of 'siblings' in the same batch (they get the same diet and housing) that have not colored much yet. Ghost is coloring very well also, more blues now rather than that eerie turquoise he has been for so long. Ghost is like, odddd....

DC
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I've got the blues...LOL...them screamin' yellow-head blues...

eve Aug 16, 2003 08:56 AM

are you these days YELLOW ? Blue? Have a shed lately, Wife dusting your bugs? LOL hehehhhe OH I love the way Ghost is colored, extremely odd, and very unique ! I will watch him for ya anytime, but gee I hope he dont get away, and then I can't sent him back LMAO Eve

CollardGuy Aug 16, 2003 07:14 PM

Thats Blue! I like it. Of course... I love blue lizards, Nosy Be Panther Chams, C. Dickersonae, ... Acually I don't know of any more, but they are awesome.
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Let there be Lizardz.
- Scott

DC Aug 16, 2003 11:17 PM

...started out as a pastel turquoise. If I had to complain about something, it would be his darkish gray head color. He only gets that blue when he's been out sunning in REAL sun for a while, and runs around and gets his blood pumping. He's a nice blue otherwise, but summer is for sunning! Here's a pic from when he was a juvie, talking up a brownstar a bit LOL.

DC

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I've got the blues...LOL...them screamin' yellow-head blues...

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