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Can you feel my pain?

boaphile May 28, 2007 05:33 PM

Can you feel my pain?

Sorry I did not take a photograph of it before I cleaned it up, but I did have something happen today that has only happened to me once before. I had a Boa bite and wrap. I had one baby Boa do that back in 1989. That was almost 20 years ago. Now, how can I remember that happening that long ago? I remember the Boa. It was a "Jumbo" baby from a litter that was born in 1989. She bit me on the back of the hand and wrapped. A new born baby, albeit about 22" at the time. That was quite painful, but today was a little more interesting experience.

I always feed all my own Boas. In all the years that I have kept snakes, I have only let one other person feed just one time. That time I had another fellow feed about 200 babies. He had fed much too large food items to a bunch of babies. Well, needless to say, about 25 of those babies regurged within the next week. After that, never again has anyone fed any of the Boas beside me. After all, I know what I'm doing right? I have fed hundreds of thousands of rats to Boas of every type and shape. I know which tool is the right one to use all the time right? Well, today I took a tiny little short cut.

I have done it before, but never had this happen before today. I have my small 12" hemostats feeding off weaned sized rats to yearlings or two year olds in sweater boxes. All babies around 3' right? Well I remembered I needed to feed my 4 year old adult male Sharp Albino male. He is less than 4' long but in a large blanket box. He has a whole lot more room to lock and load before making a strike. To make matters worse, I have been feeding for about two hours and he has been anxiously, if not patiently, waiting for his turn at a rat. The blanket box is opaque so he can't really see out. I pick up a rat of an appropriate size for this little fiend, and pull open the drawer, then I raise the hemostat above the top edge of the tub and BAM! He has me! I mean he HAS ME! Me! The fellow who gives him all his nourishment. Me who gives him fresh water. Ok, so I don't water him Mr. Gerholdt does so after he cleans him, but I am the one who placed him in with that girl this year he was so interested in! Is it my fault she was not interested in you Mr. Sharp Albino? Is it? Apparently he thinks so. He has me in the worst way possible.

For some reason, unknown to me, while I was lifting the hemostat, I had my index finger extended and apparently pointing directly at the Sharp Albino. Now, don't ask me why my finger was pointing straight at that Albino, but it was. That little poopy pants homed right in on that extended finger and BAM! My tip of my finger was in this monster's throat! I mean it! In his throat! So I drop my snake hook, which I only use to hook the drawer so I don't get bit (ha ha), and move to grab the little fella before he can toss a quick coil around my hand but! Too late! He's got me! I am wrapped, bit and now he is pulling his head away from my hand as hard as he can while still biting down like he means to kill that index finger! I feel a little bit bad for the rats I feed now. Holy mackerel! Does that hurt! He synchs those teeth deeper into my throbbing flesh while the blood begins to ooze from my now slotted tooth pricks as he goes for the kill. I mean this is really serious pain! I finally get a grip on his neck right behind his head and am talking to him now. You know what I am saying to him don't you? I don't use profanity so I am calling him all the other dirty names in the book, "you stupid animal"! "You filthy stupid animal"!!! He is twisting now that I have him around the neck trying to get away from my grip. It seems like about twenty minutes have gone by, such is the agony, but it's probably more like 5 seconds. Ouch! That really hurts! What anguish! I finally get the grip that is going to save my finger, or so I hoped. I only have one hand now as the right hand is partially eaten and the left is retarded especially given the agony I am suffering. I have hold of his neck and am hoping he just relinquishes his eternal grip on my favorite finger which has been engulfed by this wild beast! I hold firm, he looks at me as if to say, "Who is the idiot now, you dork"! I am, is all I could think at that moment. Just like many of the great submission fighters do, as I have tapped out and am waiting for him to let go, he gives me just one more bite down and one more squeeze to let me know I should never have done that or called him stupid. Then with several twists and pulls, after snapping off numerous hooked teeth that electrified my pain sensing nerves, he allows me to go free. I was finally free of his death grip. I am just so happy that my finger has been saved. Happy I will pick my nose again with that finger. Happy that he seems to be unscathed too after his ordeal. Moments later, he was all too happy to take that same rat I had offered earlier. However, this time that rat was dangling from my 24" long hemostat. I have learned an important lesson and in a strange way feel more attached to that Sharp Albino than I had before.
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Replies (18)

ajfreptiles May 28, 2007 05:58 PM

Sounds Like you had a Great Time!!! LOL!!!

Were you checking his Tonsils?? LOL!!!

I had one nab me last year and when I went to try and stop the wrap mode he wrapped both hands...lol....I felt like I was hand-cuffed..lol...nobody around so I just sat there and tried to relax as he sank all those lovely razor teeth in me!

Well he finally let go but ouch did that smart for a few days!

I feel your pain Jeff....You can still pick your nose!!!

Andy
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AshLopez May 28, 2007 06:09 PM

Ha,Ha Ha !!!!!

Great story.

I definately feel your Pain.

Your Discription was Awesome.

I was rinsing a Chicken that I was going to cook.

I half ass washed my hand,and thought I would play with my 7

foot Surinam and WHAP !!!!!

Missed my hand and right on the shoulder.

She had a piece of it in her mouth and sunk her teeth in deep.

I guess when she tasted it, coiled back and spit it out in Disgust !!!!

Sure bled alot.

It was the first time I got hit by a snake that big.

The force really surprised me.
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drimes May 28, 2007 07:10 PM

OMG Jeff....that is one incredibly funny story. It took me a few minutes to clear the tears from my eyes after reading your account of "the event". Great story!

You have redefined the term "finger food" for me now!!!

Denny

evercraig190 May 28, 2007 07:14 PM

Man Jeff thats some story! I had bought a 7' female from a reptile store one time and didnt realize she was sick...well the next day when i got her home and i tried to take her out and calm her down, well she came about six inches from taking a bite out of my face...for some reason, i was movin faster than her and i luckily stopped her...

great story, thanks for sharing...
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rainbowsrus May 28, 2007 07:35 PM

Done that!!

Great description, you have such a way with words. Thanks for the story.

I got nailed some years back by a subadult BRB, strong suckers!! He/She grabbed the side of my hand and wrapped all four fingers lickety split. Damn it was squeezing so hard I thought it was going to break my fingers. Walked to the sink, filled it with cold water and submerged my hand with snake still tightly wrapped. Did I mention BRB's are all muscle?? After a minute or so it finally let go......relief!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
21.29 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

fgs May 28, 2007 07:51 PM

Jeff:

What a great story. You had me laighing out loud.

Thanks again for making my day.....

Brian

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BROWNSBOAS May 28, 2007 08:13 PM

n/p

BigJim55 May 28, 2007 10:52 PM

try that with a large Retic and it will give you an even greater respect on what a snake can do! I could only compare it to very large vise grips with teeth that seem to keep clamping harder and harder! The meanest snake out of the hundreds I have kept over the years was a Peruvian Boa, anyone that met this animal over the years had to agree. It chased many a person out of my snake room! Big Jim

kirby May 29, 2007 09:21 AM

3-6 months from now when the last teeth fragments are finally working there way out your current ordeal will finally be over. That is about enough time to get a little more casual and have it happen again. I have a sink near my snake room and when they bite and rap I go straight to the sink and put on the coldest water possible directly on the snakes head. They let go very quickly.
Hope there is no tendon damage.
Bill

boaphile May 29, 2007 11:09 AM

Thank you for the heart felt sympathy. My finger is fine. I am actually typing with it. I was typing with it yesterday a hour and a half after the bite. Oh yea, I am a tough guy! Big Bald and beautiful am I! I'm not one of those big babies that goes crying every time I get bit. It's not like it's never happened before right? OK, so this time it really hurt. It hurt real real bad. I wanted my Mommy but I didn't call for her. Not one time did anyone hear me call for her. Oh the fact that nobody was in earshot had nothing to do with it. Plus the fact that she is 1200 miles away had nothing to do with it either smarty pants. Nope! I'm a big tough guy. I have hair on my back for Pete's sake! OK, so maybe I whimpered a little bit. Maybe between that tough guy exterior there is a little boy who was really hurting yesterday afternoon at about 3:38 PM. OK! So what! Haven't you ever had something really scary happen to you!? Huh!? I'm leaving now you big bully... I want my Mommy!!!
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rainbowsrus May 29, 2007 11:57 AM

on your back that is!!!

ya big baby!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
21.29 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

marksherps May 29, 2007 12:39 PM

I know for a fact you don't use foul language but are you sure you didn't slip up this one time???
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iamsnakeshack May 30, 2007 11:20 AM

Hey Mr. boaphile, how about putting some large rat sized feeding hatches in your enclosures so we can keep all 10 fingers! Na just kidding, then you couldn’t stack them. Man, I can’t tell you how many times I would have liked to be able to feed an overly eager snake with out opening the front door. I’ll just have to get a two-door model. I had a scrub python that was great until he got hungry, man what a feeding response! I looked more like a welder than a snake keeper at feeding time.

Thanks for the story. It’s funny because we’ve all bin there, I’m just not looking forward to the next time I get zapped!

RuBeN14 May 29, 2007 12:01 PM

a baby male Dh Sharp sunglow do that to me. I couldn't beleive the power that little guy had in his jaw. He held me for about 3-4 minutes while I was gently trying to pry him off my middle finger! Sharps have a great feeding response and some can be a little fiesty! I also had a jungle male bite and wrap my hand but that was cause he missed the mouse then grabbed my finger and some how wrapped my finger and the mouse. That took about 5-6 minutes to get him off. All those years and you only got it twice and I get twice in 3. Oh well, guess I need to be a little more careful but one thing I know is to never turn your back on a Sharp animal! The female Sharp in the pic has almost got me in the face a few times but I love her anyways!

Ruben Michel

iamsnakeshack May 29, 2007 02:30 PM

LOL!

I was watching one of those shows on TV, ya know, “When Big Snakes Attack”, and two guys got away by poring alcohol on the snakes head. Of coarse they were Burmese and Reticulated! One guy got zapped in the head when reaching for a water dish, I don’t recall if he made it.

I’ve got Carpet Pythons and Blood Pythons so I’m no stranger to getting bit. The secret with those guys is not to yank your hand back and end up shredding it. With them it is defensive and not food confusion so no wrap and squeeze. My brothers will bite you every time you take him out. It doesn’t hurt if you don’t move, but it looks bad because of the blood. It’s just a bunch of tiny pinpricks that bleed for a second. Thank god mine haven’t bitten me in a couple of years.

The worst bite I’ve’ ever got was from a Corn snake. I was showing my daughter how to feed the snake with the tongs and she dropped the rat so like a dork I tried to grab it with my hand and whack! As soon as I felt the strike I pulled my hand back and shredded my finger from knuckle to tip. Bleed like a stuck pig and scared my girls do death. My little one still tells her friends the time Daddy screamed like a little girl.

Good luck with the therapy. There is noting like getting zapped out of the blue like that.

boaphile May 30, 2007 02:42 PM

A couple important lessons I should have learned from this experience:

1. I should stop asking everyone to "pull my finger".

2. What my mother said was correct, "It's impolite to point Jeffrey".
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rainbowsrus May 30, 2007 03:46 PM

Don't go poking your finger in places it doesn't belong.

and

Proper etiquette for driking tea is pinky out, proper etiquette for feeding snakes is pinky in?
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
21.29 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

strictly4fun May 30, 2007 04:17 PM

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