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Anyone know where i can get one of these,and that can ship to me in Tn.
thanks

I dont think you know how to keep one caged properly.
and if it was a joke it was not funny enough for you to lose
any credibility you thought you had.
yea we should bend over to help you get a black mamba NOT>
If I was a bad person I would say YEA GET A BLACK.
for you its death.

In addition to the above... I'm thinking it would be VERY illegal for a TN. resident to have a Mamba of any kind, if I recall the laws of the commonwealth correctly....

Troll.... definitely a troll. I'm going to be reporting his/her posts to the moderator.

Tom
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"Seek first to understand, then to be understood"

Then give his IP address to the proper authorities of the state of TN and let them deal with him. I'm sure they'd love to rip his estate apart looking for this very dangerous snake, joke or not. TN seems to be pretty militant in their laws, so it'd probably be best for all involved to just let this kid play with them.
-Chance

You can easily get your mamba from Mambas 'R' Us or Wal-Mamba.

I would recommend this place to anyone. They havegreat customer service and the tamest mambas around. Mine even likesme to pet him on his head every night before I go to sleep. He even eats canned cat food!! I love my pet mamba!

They come in beautiful rainbow color phases too. Why not buy a whole box?
Buy these mambas!

... to never be actively drinking while reading this forum!

*koff* *hack* *gag* OK, I'm better now.

On the topic of "are you ready?" - I have come to the conclusion that I am *NOT* ready to keep a venomous snake. I'll still keep doing my occasional rattler relocations, I'm just not going to *keep* them. After spending time reading this forum and everything else I can find about venomous keeping, I know that I'm just not prepared.

So, I'm settling for taking in a Rock Python with a nasty disposition. Plenty of aggression, strength, and agility, and no trips to the hospital after getting tagged.

Now, I'm going to go buy some of those candies after I clean the Mountain Dew off of my monitor.........

grow up keep the guppies, get off these forums, your a simpleton, go away and play with your firetruck and GI Joe dolls, better still just leave --moron
Barry

Troll

Troll

at first, I agreed and thought it was a joke. But actually, I can't see why anyone would want a snake like a black mamba. Usually I attribute it to very ineffectual men trying to make up for something lacking in other places. Ya know, kinda like the small penis, big car scenario. As far as what he said about the people on thses forums being sick, yeah would have to agree with that too. I can't even count how many times people just anonymously attack people, including myself, on here like they know anything, let alone everything. And for someone to be on here saying that they're qualified to own big, bad mambas and someone else isn't, is just pure stupidity mixed with brainless machismo. Ooohhhh, you own a snake that can and will kill you faster than you can remember your own name which I'm sure many of the rednecks around here have trouble doing on a daily basis. Good for you. I wish I could be as talented as you. Suck suck.

Next, as far as turning him into the proper authorities, is this America's Most Wanted now? Get a life and keep your eyes on your own paper. It's absolutely none of anyone's business except his. People come here asking for advice and get berated by people that probably aren't qualified to wipe their own ass which is why they feel the need to put other people down. As far as what he said about most people being bottom feeding scumbags. 100% agree. And it's experinces with people like the ones I'm speaking of that make the more intelligent percentage of the population, which seems to be a continuously dwindling amount, see the truth. I'm gonna take a shot in the dark here and bet most of you have George W. Bush posters on your walls. Anyway, just wanted my chance to throw in my 2 cents, since everyone else gets too. Represent the minority and as far as I'm concerened the people who are truly decent because honesty is a beautiful thing. Not the ones that hide behind a fascade so clouded with ignorance that they don't even know what's real and what's not. And before everyone's panties get all moist, my opinion doesn't deserve anymore respect than the others. Carry on.

I'd love to So have a Komoda dragon, common sense tells me love is not enough. So far Monsterrancher has exhibited no qualifying traits needed to secure and posess these animals unless reckless postings ( I lost My Black Mamba ), are posative indicators to you. I have no heart burn with State goverments imposing standards on the hobby, to avoid real posts like the obviously fake one. And lastly . if this imbicile buy one and gets bit or way worse some one else gets bit is another nail in the coffin that will be YOUR hobby, as this clown obviously could care less for the rest of us. We put in the time effort and aquired skills required--something he apparently hasn't. So kottonking maybe you should reconsider your post just maybe.
Barry

crying fire in a crowd or saying Ive lost a big black mamba are
examples of crimminal behavior.
what do you think fish and game would do to him?
prosicute or if he is a rich kid let him off.
can he blame us for this some how?
we caused him to break the laws becuase he feels rejected?
or can he blame this on george bush?
he is a fool as bad as you.
sounds like he is about 6 years old from the text he posted.
how about you? 10 12 years old?

I just looked at it. That is a little ridiculous. But still, people really need to lighten up around here. This is a hobby. It's supposed to be fun. I live in PA. We have no venomous laws here whatsoever. The only thing we can't keep as far as I know, is E. Massassaugas because they're endangered. That's it. I think it's pretty strange that a kid can go to the Hamburg show or whatever and pick up a black mamba with I'm sure very few questions asked. But ya know what, what do I care? It's none of my business. If someone's curious enough to go get one of these snakes which are not attractive in any way, then go right ahead. The only reason I can think of to keep a mamba is to see how long you can go with it before it kills you. If that's what entertains you, be my guest. It's kind of like natural selection.

I bet you would start to make it your business if that kid went to the hamburg show bought that black mamba and somehoe it got loose in your neighborhood. This is the same neighborhood your kids play in. I think these people are right making it there business because this is not just one person's hobby and if they screw it up for everyone else by being irresponsible then that is enough to make it THEIR business.

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and mine and everyone else's that's in this hobby/field/profession.

First off, let me say that I don't think this guy (or kid) is serious. It looks like someone just trolling (from his past posts) to see what kind of reaction he can get. Plus, it's hard for me to believe that anyone is that stupid and still survives to be old enough to use a computer.

Second, I'm NOT a big fan of restrictive legislation. My personal feeling, and I don't want to turn this into a political debate, is that the LESS government we have and the LESS intrusive government we have the better off we all are. We don't need someone telling us what is good for us. However, when we, in our infinite stupidity, find ways to endanger OTHER people with our activities, then restrictive legislation is sometimes necessary. The problem with restrictive legislation is that it is often a knee-jerk reaction to an isolated incident, and is usually a gross overreaction. No matter how we feel about them, mainsteam USA is absolutely terrified of venomous snakes. We can't change that, but if we want to keep our right (privelege?) to keep them, we damn well better learn to respect that.

With that out of the way, let me point out a couple of things:

Laws aren't passed until someone thinks there's a reason for it. In Alabama, some kid decided to let a couple of dangerously venomous animals go. That caused the state to go from really no laws regarding venomous snakes to some of the most restrictive in the country. One idiot with a venomous "pet" changes things for everybody. That's life. You may not like it, but that's the way things happen in this country. We DO NOT have the same voice as the non-snake-keeping public. There just aren't as many of us.

If this little nit-wit would ONLY endanger himself with his Mamba, I'd say let him go for it. Encourage him. Somebody give him a special price. If he buys a polylepis, a viridis, an angusticeps and a jamesoni, then throw in a nice N. nivea for free. Give him all the fast elapids he wants. It would only clean the gene pool out a little faster. We don't really want that mentality to reproduce anyway. If the snake would bite him, then politely put itself back in the cage and wait for someone to come get it, voluntarily go in the bag or box and be happy with only biting one person, that would be great.

The bottom line is that he doesn't only endanger himself. He endangers his family, friends, neighbors and whoever has to come catch the animal after his "accident". Then there's the inevitable bad press. That's the part that gets laws passed. That's the part that makes every one of us look bad. The laws are not there to protect you from yourself, they are there to protect other people from you (generically speaking, not YOU specifically).

By the way, there ARE people who are qualified to handle venomous snakes and people who aren't. Some people may not like having that pointed out, but that doesn't make it any less true. There are people who are qualified to fly airliners and people who aren't, people who are qualified to dispense prescriptions and people who aren't. Keeping venomous snakes is a highly dangerous occupation/avocation no matter how you slice it up. There are many, many safety guidelines, techniques and precautions, as well as a lot of special equipment designed specifically for the purpose of rendering the snake, for all intents and purposes, harmless. Yet accident still occasionally happen to the best. Just because someone WANTS to keep venomous snakes does not in any shape form or fashion indicate that they should, or should be allowed to. Florida has an excellent law for that in my opinion. There, you are required to have a permit to keep venomous snakes. In order to get that permit, you have to log 1,000 hours of handling venomous snakes with a qualified, licensed keeper, plus you have to have your cages and facilities inspected and qualified. This is not overly restrictive, and it goes a long way to making sure that the people who keep venomous snakes know what they are doing and know how to prevent escapes. If moere states would follow Florida's example, I think we would see a decline in accidents and escapes that are due to a lack of skill or knowledge on the part of the keeper.

I'm just pointing out the fact AGAIN, that alot of people just seem like they have nothing better to do than belittle other people to make themselves feel more superior in this little "thing of ours". That's all. No big deal. Doesn't matter. I was bored at the time myself.

King....you had me rolling on the floor with that one(seeing how long it takes to get bitten,thats entertainment,lol)
First let me say to all you others,my loose snake post was a joke,ha,ha;But im am a serious herper,i have an 8`burmese python,6`coastal carpet python,florida kingsake(black & yellow,very pretty),5`green tree boa,a 13``savannah monitor & a 2 1/2` dumerils monitor,as far as hots go i want to get a coral snake,a southern copperhead,maybe an eyelash viper,green mamba,black mamba,king cobra,gaboon viper,and sea kraits are all considerations,im also planning on a spider monkey and a macaw,and some red bellies for my fish collection.
Oh,and as far as the(stupid,moron,and other remarks go)im probably alot smarter than you are,i do have a 137iq not be bragging but you need to watch how you treat people.i do have a borderline personality disorder with high antisocial traits,but im not trying to hurt anyone(till they piss me off)i just like what i like,and want what i want.I know the proper equipment and caging i need to house these hots and i wont get the snakes till i have them set up.So....peace,love,& go to hell...
btw.....long live the king..

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It has to do with ther species you acknowl;edge you posess and hpe they have prepared you to deal with a elaphid. Ever see a real coral snake, know how fast they are, not in the bite but in pure ground speed. eyelash vipers( assume you mean bothropechis ) not too hard to work , mambas of any species are a work out, not because of their aggression but pure ground speed, and that they are aboreal. That you would believe that working coastal pythons qualifies you to work mambas in amusing----by all means do as you wish, hope your credit cards aren't maxed out. You may well need them, I had a minor C Atrox bite about 23 years ago cost was about $1200.00 to fix. You can expect to well over ten times that amount to fix your problem. maybe you should be reading the posts at top of this forum 6 times this poor guy was bitten in a eye blink. My bite took me almost a full year to recover 98% usage of my hand, if you recover your problems will last alot longer. Just some simply cuontry think to a obviously superior keeper. But Sir, will you do us the honor of kindly reporting to this forum when one of your critters do zap you assuming that you can make it to the keyboard. lets see a large dendroaspis pick a species about 20 minutes you might not make it long enough to post. * the 20 minute figure is a severe bite with no immediate treatment.

It is a shame people like you are allowed out of their cage.

King....you had me rolling on the floor with that one(seeing how long it takes to get bitten,thats entertainment,lol)
First let me say to all you others,my loose snake post was a joke,ha,ha;

Big joke. I'm sure it kept you amused for a while...not that it seems that would be too difficult.

But im am a serious herper,

Now THERE'S a joke. You wouldn't make a pimple on a serious herper's butt. No serious herper would get on here and make the kind of posts and "jokes" you have made.

i have an 8`burmese python,6`coastal carpet python,florida kingsake(black & yellow,very pretty),5`green tree boa,a 13``savannah monitor & a 2 1/2` dumerils monitor,

So what? That might qualify you to work at Petco (especially since they seem to have no particular qualifications), but it certainly has absolutely nothing to do with venomous snakes. That's like saying I have a moped, so I'm qualified to roadrace superbikes. By the way, do you have a Green Tree Python or an Emerald Tree Boa, or a hybrid between the two?

as far as hots go i want to get a coral snake,a southern copperhead,maybe an eyelash viper,green mamba,black mamba,king cobra,gaboon viper,and sea kraits are all considerations,im also planning on a spider monkey and a macaw,and some red bellies for my fish collection.

When's the last time you saw Sea Kraits on a price list? Oh, never mind...I think you should go for it...good choices. They'll all do well in 10 gallon aquariums, by the way. Don't listen to these other guys..you don't need hooks and tongs and stuff like that. That's for sissies. Free-hand all the way, that's how real men do it.

Oh,and as far as the(stupid,moron,and other remarks go)im probably alot smarter than you are,i do have a 137iq

We're proud of you. I knew you had to be just short of genius.

not be bragging but you need to watch how you treat people.

Sorry, but I just didn't follow that one...but then again, you do have a 137 IQ...I shouldn't expect to be able to follow your logic.

i do have a borderline personality disorder with high antisocial traits,but im not trying to hurt anyone(till they piss me off)

Uh-oh..I didn't know you were...you know...special. Hope I didn't make you too angry..wouldn't want any borderline people coming after me now. OK...you've scared me. I agree with everything you say.

i just like what i like,and want what i want.I know the proper equipment and caging i need to house these hots and i wont get the snakes till i have them set up.So....peace,love,& go to hell...
btw.....long live the king..

Ummm..WTFE.

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I know you are but what am I,I know you are but what am I,ha,ha

a few issues. That would not make a very responsible mamba owner if that's what he was to choose to do. Hear the sarcasm?

clearly he is either a troll and not a very good one, or a ass pick one. either way at the end of the day ( and possibly his as well ), no skin of my nose what he does execpt for the inevitable headlines he will get. I do have some solice if that transpires odds are in himanity's favor that a defective gene has been removed from the already polluted gene pool. " whats the problem there" nothing I can immediately forsee execpt for the news, and they will show little sympathy for him. Talking to this guy is a waste of space don't be baited he reviles in the attention. Ignore the simpleton he'll go away they always do in one fashion or another--they go away.
now maybe some peace and tranquility!
Barry

Should be another good Darwin Award. Another gene destroyed that wont contaminate the rest of us.