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DH Coral Sunglow X Albino Het Snow

Carnage99 Jun 01, 2007 08:52 AM

Hi,

I'm new to Boa Genetics, so thought I'd ask the experts.

What would a I get from;

DH Coral Sunglow (kahl) X Albino Het Snow (kahl)

Also if you wouldn't mind;

DH Coral Sunglow (kahl) X Sharp Albino

I already have the male DH Coral Sunglow, just trying to figure out a nice female. I assume a Normal Het Sharp Albino would give me the same results as a Sharp Albino, or am I wrong?

Thanks for all you help!

Replies (4)

Paul Hollander Jun 01, 2007 05:09 PM

>What would a I get from;
>
>DH Coral Sunglow (kahl) X Albino Het Snow (kahl)

As far as I know, the coral effect has to be selected for and is not the result of a single mutant gene. There is likely to be some coral in some of the babies, but I can't predict how much or in how many.

A DH Sunglow has a Kahl albino mutant gene paired with a normal gene (albino//normal) and a salmon (AKA hypo) mutant gene paired with a normal gene (salmon//normal). All the thousands of other gene pairs in its genome are either wild type (AKA normal) or cannot be distinguished from wild type with our present methods. One of those normal gene pairs corresponds to the albino het snow's anerythristic//normal gene pair.

An albino het snow has a pair of Kahl albino mutant genes and an anerythristic mutant gene paired with a normal gene (anerythristic//normal). All the thousands of other gene pairs in its genome are either wild type (AKA normal) or cannot be distinguished from wild type with our present methods. One of those normal gene pairs corresponds to the sunglow's salmon//normal gene pair.

So there are three gene pairs to look at

albino//normal x albino//albino -->
1/2 albino//albino = albino
1/2 albino//normal = het albino, which looks normal

Salmon//normal x normal//normal -->
1/2 salmon//normal = salmon
1/2 normal//normal = normal

normal//normal x anerythristic//normal -->
1/2 normal//normal = normal
1/2 anerythristic//normal = het anerythristic, which looks normal

So half of the babies would be albino. And half of the babies would be salmon. The babies that are both salmon and albino are sunglows. None of the babies would be anerythristic, snow, or moonglow.

Final summary, with the expected fractions:
DH Coral Sunglow (kahl) X Albino Het Snow (kahl) -->
1/4 albino (50% probability het anerythristic)
1/4 sunglow (50% probability het anerythristic)
1/4 salmon (50% probability het anerythristic)
1/4 normal (50% probability het anerythristic)

>Also if you wouldn't mind;
>
>DH Coral Sunglow (kahl) X Sharp Albino

The coral result is likely to be the same as in the first mating.

We've got the DH sunglow's gene pairs. It has a pair of normal genes where the Sharp albino has a pair of Sharp albino genes. And the Sharp albino has pairs of normal genes corresponding to the DH sunglow's salmon//normal and albino//normal gene pairs.

Final result, including fractions:
DH Coral Sunglow (kahl) X Sharp Albino -->
1/2 salmon, heterozygous Sharp albino, 50% probability het Kahl albino. These look like salmons.
1/2 heterozygous Sharp albino, 50% probability het Kahl albino. These look normal.

>I already have the male DH Coral Sunglow, just trying to figure out a nice female. I assume a Normal Het Sharp Albino would give me the same results as a Sharp Albino, or am I wrong?

Looks of the babies would be the same, but the genes would be slightly different.

Result of this pairing is
1/2 salmon, 50% probability het Sharp albino, 50% probability het Kahl albino. These look like salmons.
1/2 50% probability het Sharp albino, 50% probability het Kahl albino. All of these look normal, and some would not carry either albino mutant.

In my opinion, the mating of choice is DH Coral Sunglow (kahl) X Albino Het Snow (kahl). YMMV.

Paul Hollander

carnage99 Jun 01, 2007 10:51 PM

Thank you Paul!

I agree looks like this is the way to go;

Final summary, with the expected fractions:
DH Coral Sunglow (kahl) X Albino Het Snow (kahl) -->
1/4 albino (50% probability het anerythristic)
1/4 sunglow (50% probability het anerythristic)
1/4 salmon (50% probability het anerythristic)
1/4 normal (50% probability het anerythristic)

Does anyone happen to know the %'s of Coral offspring, or is it totally random?

Originally I'd have thought that the DH Coral Sunglow (kahl) X Albino Het Snow (kahl) pairing would give you snows or ghosts, but doesn't seem to be that way.

Thanks again!

Paul Hollander Jun 02, 2007 06:48 PM

>Originally I'd have thought that the DH Coral Sunglow (kahl) X Albino Het Snow (kahl) pairing would give you snows or ghosts, but doesn't seem to be that way.

If you do get any anerythristics, snows, ghosts or moonglows from this pairing, then the DH coral sunglow would also be het anerythristic. That is not impossible, of course, but don't bet the farm on it happening. Good luck.

Paul Hollander

Carnage99 Jun 02, 2007 10:16 PM

What if I went;

DH Coral Sunglow X Anery Het Snow

Would this be a better pairing do you think than DH Coral Sunglow X Albino Het Snow?

Thanks again!

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