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sorry if i keep ruining the fun posts =

badcompnay Jun 01, 2007 04:42 PM

but im full of questions and you guys all give me great ideas and great advice!

since making my new enclosure for my BRB ive noticed she doesnt come out of her hide box. ive caught her once coming out and going to her water bowl and in the morning she was back in the box.

i have not noticed her going to her hot side at all...should i be worried? or should i just let her explore and make it there on her own? should i provide some sort of "hide" there as well and show her the way?

im asking b/c i fed her a few days ago and she hasnt gone to get warm to digest, unless the temps in my room are fine...i keep it relatively hot, i turn the ac off during the day and it gets to be abt 77 in here (hot as i have to bare with the heat, and living here in miami makes it worst!)

once again sorry for stopping the good posts

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rainbowsrus Jun 01, 2007 04:53 PM

Not stopping anything good at all.

77 is adequate for digestion with a smaller BRB, I set my stat at 77 on the hatchling rack.

If that hide is nice and comfy, then she will only come out when hungry or thirsty.

A hide on the warm side would be a good idea.
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Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
21.29 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

badcompnay Jun 01, 2007 05:38 PM

im assuming its at 77...my temp gun from pro exotics is on its way here.

my thermostat on my A/C says its at 77 so i would guess its at that or maybe a lil warmer since i closed off the top.

remember i use a rheostat for the UTH which keeps it 85-86.

im thinking abt getting a thermostat instead but that wont control the ambient temps now will it?

as for the hide box on the warm side, ill have to get a smaller one. i got an 18QT one for her to last her to her adult size, i hope that was a wise move seeins as i was thinking ahead. and the 18QT is pretty big and takes up a good amount of room....oooorrrrr....i can just move the hide box to the warm side? and maybe have some sphagnum loose around on her cold side so she can hide under that????

btw dave...ur the man...thnx for all the help

FRoberts Jun 01, 2007 05:50 PM

in order to control ambient temps with a thermostate ( helix or herpstat ) you would have to set the entire room with an oil filled heater to get ambient where you want and use reostat or other thermastate to control hot spots.

Plus I like new threads, after a while those HUGE threads become hard to follow.
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Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

badcompnay Jun 01, 2007 05:56 PM

something tells me just to leave the a/c thermostat at 77...."oil filled heater"?????? never heard of that!

FRoberts Jun 01, 2007 07:30 PM

it may be called something else...

look at this pic for example. I use these heaters to control my backround with a super system helix control, to within .5 degrees F.

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Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

badcompnay Jun 01, 2007 07:41 PM

whats that thing called? i have never seen one of those

FRoberts Jun 01, 2007 07:47 PM

I believe it's called an oil filled heater, oil never goes away, no upkeep to unit it's a closed system heater...

Look here for description

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Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

strictly4fun Jun 01, 2007 07:50 PM

Paul uses an oil-filled heater for his garage/retic room and he can't say enough about his and it is run with a thermostat probe mounted on top of his big unit (like 10 cages 5 on each side)
Bob

badcompnay Jun 01, 2007 07:50 PM

well i would guess that goes in a room where you have all your snakes and what not.... all my snakes and my 2 dragons are in my room...tho my room is big and they are in "my office area"....its still just one big room. so i dont know how i can use that here.

ive looked some up and they are cheaper than i thought they would be 40-50 dollars and i saw one there for 100.

FRoberts Jun 01, 2007 07:53 PM

under your conditions, it's a snake room, I use this in.
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Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

badcompnay Jun 01, 2007 08:03 PM

thats what i thought...meaning it would just make my room a sauna.

once i get my temp gun i will know more temps and more details with it.

FRoberts Jun 01, 2007 08:06 PM

yeah that wouldn't work for me either, I certainly do not want to sleep in my snake room, for that very reason.
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Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

badcompnay Jun 01, 2007 08:07 PM

ill be back going to go see "Knocked Up"

sean1976 Jun 01, 2007 09:02 PM

...radiators or radiant heaters in the home appliance sections of department stores.

They are a bit of a specialty item for most stores but I know places like SEARS get them in every winter and may keep some stocked year round.

One thing to be very cognizant of with them though is that there is a massive variance in energy efficiency between different models/brands so be sure to do your homework before you buy.

Also while they are about the best thing available for space heating do keep in mind that they are a fire hazard if flamables are in contact with the metal ridges(that the heated oil is in).

As long as you make sure not to leave paper or other flamables in contact with the metal your safe.

Last time I bought one the price range for single room/large area models was arround $50-150 if memory serves me correctly.

strictly4fun Jun 01, 2007 09:10 PM

my friend says his cost just a few dollars a month during the winter so I'm assuming 10 bucks for oil but I'll ask next time I see him though
Bob

sean1976 Jun 01, 2007 09:23 PM

..me they all are nowadays.

But the way the ones I have used work is that the fluid inside the radiator coils/layers is heated heated electrically and circulated through the coils/layers. This heats the surface area of the coils/layers which in turn heats the air in contact with it. Basically the same process, but in reverse, that your cars radiator uses.

The reason most are now thin layers instead of the more traditional radiator coils(which were steam/water filled I think)is that the layer configuration allows for more surface area and thereby more rapid and efficient energy transfer.

I believe all are oil filled because you can super heat oil without burning it or evaporating it.

Also I am not familiar with any space heaters that actually use up oil. The cost is always the electrical cost of heating the oil. However there may well be ones out there that do use up oil but which I am not familliar with personaly.

The space heaters that I am familliar with which use up fuel are the gas burning heaters. Namely kerosene or propane heaters. Both very effective but not the kind of heater you want running unattended.

Hope this was helpfull.

Sean.

strictly4fun Jun 01, 2007 09:27 PM

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