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Just wondering if anyone had any thoughts on the male brazilian we got in. He is pictured next to a moderate looking female.

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J&J REPTILES
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He looks light, but is definately normal. Dave will have pictures of real hypos, but here is my male that I thought might be hypo when I first got him.

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Jess
2.4 adult brazilian rainbows
1.1 baby BRBs born 6/18
1.0 normal corn
1.0 african brown house snake
0.1 hypo Boa constrictor
0.1 normal ball python
2.3.1 crested geckos
1.1 western hognoses
0.2 kitties Marina (aka Mayhem)and Chaos
1.0 boyfriend to keep me spoiled
1.1 paranoid parents "too many snakes!"

He could be, if so he is a really nice normal. We are going to be holding onto him to see if we can prove him out so to speak. He just looks identical or close to alot of hypos we have seen. Thank you for your help.

Very nice male by the way!
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J&J REPTILES
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I would believe that is a normal but do you have any history of the animal like who produced it or where the parents came from though? Here is a couple pics of my hypo
after first shed

a couple sheds later in her night color

and last month after 5 sheds

Bob

He is an import. He is very close if not just like the one you just posted. We are going to hold onto him to see what he produces. Thank you for your help.
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J&J REPTILES
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Not to step on any toes but your male in question is a caramel sort of color (brown) and mine is orange. No doubt it is lighter than some normals but here a couple of pics of nice light normals

Jeff Clark's property right here

and some Dave Colling property

and some hypo pics and again Colling property

these hypos and mine were all from the Lockwood Line and here is a couple of the Colling Line
mother het hypo

and her daughter

I'm not saying that male is 100% not hypo but it is definately not of Lockwood looking lineage that's all. thanks for reading and again not trying to step on no toes

and quite possibly the most orange normal ks have ever seen Daisy and again Colling property

Bob

errr... sorry? but i don't think he looks anything like the hypo just posted... but thats just me

He is well within normal color variation for BRBs.
Welcome to the forum,
Jeff

>>Just wondering if anyone had any thoughts on the male brazilian we got in. He is pictured next to a moderate looking female.
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>>J&J REPTILES
>>www.jnjreptiles.com
>>sales@jnjreptiles.com
>>(207)479-6658

jk
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

forum Scott?? That's the response that most crb's owners have and that is what I expect from ole Scott Evil
Bob

p.s. Hello!! Hello!! Can someone put Scott on a leash

p.s.s. Sorry for hi-jacking the thread j&j but this is a common occurence here on this forum so don't take it personal by no means

Scott's reply to a new poster to this forum was totally rude and unacceptable.

I believe he's mad at me and others for teasing him about his CRB. We're a fun group and typically fine with with tossing barbs back and forth amongst ourselves, but in a fun way.

IMO Scott crossed the line with tossing one at you (a new poster) with no history of joining in the fun.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
21.29 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

...how do you have fun living?
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

...I am not mad. And I'm sure he's able to tell a joke when he sees one. If you look inside my BRB are crap post you'd see it says "jk" anyway. There's no reason not to read the inside as I had no "n/p" in the title.
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

he is just mad he doesn't own any of these lol

that's what it is all about baby those BRB's and best of luck with the project and I would love to see that handsome male after a couple of sheds myself and don't be a stranger to the best forum on ks either
Bob

Bob, Bob, Bob what are we to do with you.....

You're "I'll vouch for that notion..." post was entered as a response to Scott's post, could easily be misconstrued as agreeing with Scott. At least from the title and what post it was in response to.

>>he is just mad he doesn't own any of these lol
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>> that's what it is all about baby those BRB's and best of luck with the project and I would love to see that handsome male after a couple of sheds myself and don't be a stranger to the best forum on ks either
>>Bob
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
21.29 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

reply, the other two indicating disaproval of Scott's post.

So could also be understood correctly.

Sorry Bob!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
21.29 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

right under your post and that is why I did that Dave. I thought I did the right thing but I don't know what to do either but I will comment on light colored BRB's. I love them especially the color of Lefty (shaking the head) I mean M5. Sorry for using your pics NOT just you got another hit lol
Bob

p.s. thanks and the T-pos debate is still going on lol and that's why I love this one

In my opinion, you have a great looking normal BRB.. while it is light, it is not a hypo.

Just to be sure, some c;ear photos in indirect light may help.. The sunlight is sort of washing that photo out a bit. Keep in mind, if it is a fresh import, it will take a few sheds to see its true colors as well.

>>Just wondering if anyone had any thoughts on the male brazilian we got in. He is pictured next to a moderate looking female.
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>>J&J REPTILES
>>www.jnjreptiles.com
>>sales@jnjreptiles.com
>>(207)479-6658
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Thank you everyone for your opinions. We are going to be keeping him as a breeder. If he is normal he is a great looking Brazilian. If he proves out to be something great if not great. Thank you all for your help.
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J&J REPTILES
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sales@jnjreptiles.com
(207)479-6658

Also keep in mind, "proving out" doesn't really mean he is a hypo.. the coloring on the brb's is a heritable trait as well, and while it does not work the same Dom/Recessive traits do, it is possible to yeild similar results with only 1 or 2 breedings.. Just food for thought.

either way.. it is a nice light animal..

>>Thank you everyone for your opinions. We are going to be keeping him as a breeder. If he is normal he is a great looking Brazilian. If he proves out to be something great if not great. Thank you all for your help.
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>>J&J REPTILES
>>www.jnjreptiles.com
>>sales@jnjreptiles.com
>>(207)479-6658
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If you are able to breed this and produce Hypo off-spring put me down for one. I have/am on a binge to get het for hypo animals and down the road may want to buya full on hypo.

If it doe not turn out to be a hypo, I do like the animal and it should produce some wonderful offspring.
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Mike

2.4 BRB
1.2 Spotted Python
1.0 Cal. King

No matter what it proves or does not prove out to be, it is a good looking BRB. I'd tend to agree with the others on it not being a hypo. There have been a lot of postings about "lighter" colored BRB's and the possibility of them being hypo.

There is ony two ways I can think of to prove it out:

1) breed him to a "normal" female. If he is a true hypo, all the babies will look (more or less) like the normal mom. If some babies look like dad, it's more likely a color phase. If all the babies look like mom, hold back a female for breeding back to dad. Of course you can hold back as many as you want. Breeding the daughter back to the "hypo" male, if roughly half of the litter looks like dad, then it's more than likely a recessive trait.

2) based on the assumption that gene is compatible with the existing hypo lines, breed your male to a known hypo line female, either het or visual hypo. Problem with this option is if you use a het female, you can only disprove the male, not prove it. If the color is a heritable phase, there will be a variety of babies. Some looking more hypo, some not. So hypo-ish looking babies will not necessarily prove anything. Using a full hypo female would be better since having all hypos would tend to prove the line.

Good luck with your project!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
21.29 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

We have a very nice beautiful female we tend on breeding him to and when they produce we are going to hold back some if not all the female they produce to breed back to him. I dont care if he is or isn't something. They way I look at it is at the very least we will get a lot of beautiful normal babies.

Thanks to everyone for their help and opinions.

And we did not take it the wrong way Scott.

Thanks again!
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J&J REPTILES
www.jnjreptiles.com
sales@jnjreptiles.com
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Here is a picture of the female we are going to breed him to. It is an old picture. She produced 21 live babies no slugs last year.

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J&J REPTILES
www.jnjreptiles.com
sales@jnjreptiles.com
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That's a nice looking deep red female!!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
21.29 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

a beautiful red phase BRB, BTW, even if he's not a "hypo", you are still going to make some OUTSTANDING neonates. Also you must realize we may "chide" Scott a little that CRB are less aesthetically pleasing than BRB, so he occasionally has uncontrollable "Tourette" like outbursts. WELCOME!!!!!!!!!!
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Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

Tourette's? Geez if I had that I wouldn't even be to operate a computer. I could joke and pretend to have it now in this post...but it'd be "crossing the line" again and much too offensive....like the guy who ran the bar in the beginning of Boondock Saints(if you haven't seen the movie....DO SO NOW!)

Frank....the post said jk inside(it didn't say n/p in the subject...so why not read it?)....i'm sure he figured it out that the post was a joke...the guy has gorgeous BRBs(yes i said BRBs were gorgeous....run to the hills)
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

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Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

lol
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Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

>>Here is a picture of the female we are going to breed him to. It is an old picture. She produced 21 live babies no slugs last year.
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>>J&J REPTILES
>>www.jnjreptiles.com
>>sales@jnjreptiles.com
>>(207)479-6658

...this forum does seem to go off-topic ALOT. That doesn't mean we don't care about ANY rainbow boas(Colombian Rainbows included!).

If you or anybody has a question we will be certain to answer it ASAP to the best of our ability.

Well....more like them...as most questions concern Brazilian rainbows.....and I only own a Colombian rainbow(me and like 3 other regulars in this forum)...I am unable to help....and then when we start joking about which snake is better....someone posts a quesiton about a Colombian rainbow and Jeff and Dave(yes Dave...who doesn't even own a CRB...nothing personal Dave just pointing out the irony lol) beat me to it.

By the way...if I offended you in any way...I am sorry. Crossing the line tends to be a habit of mine.
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)