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These guys should be hatching in a week or so. The eggs are opened up to make sure they can get out. Enjoy, Ron.

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"If it can't kill you, why keep it?"

to make sure they can get out? I have heard, only heard, that some hybrids do not develop an egg tooth, is the correct? You would know for sure. Or is this just to make sure they can get out regardless? So if the egg tooth is present, this certainly would make sure they don't die in utero for other reasons. Damn Curiosity lol...
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Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

It is mainly for that reason that some hybrids don't form an egg tooth. But to me, I don't see a down side to opening up the egg a little early. What if the snake has an egg tooth but doesn't know what to do with it? What if the diet we feed are reptiles in captivity is lacking something and the egg shells are tougher than those in the wild? Why not increase the odds of healthy babies any way we can. After all we incubate artificially to increase the odds! Ron.
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"If it can't kill you, why keep it?"

I agree, but thanks for the answer on the egg tooth. I would see no reason not to do so, also tells you how soon to expect them to come out ( based on pigmentation etc.. )

congrats again, and if and when you get a 50/50 to a 50/50 please show us those babies, they should be insane, since it has never been done to my knowledge, I'm sure you post those beauties!!!!!!!!!

Thanks again for some insight.

Congrats again!!
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Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

I believe it can be done ( bat to bat ). I hypothesis the problem may be due to "aseasonality" and "seasonality" between the two parent species, making the crucial timing even tougher to achieve than the original one. Since you have this one almost down to a "science" ( your modest, the # of your successful breeding's is beyond mere luck and just throwing them together any ole time kinda odds )you should be able to "break" the "barrier" interfering with success, which may be related to because "so and so" said it can't be done and you have to breed it back to one of the parent species. These are not salamanders and do not follow the same rules as those types of hybrids. I think you know this already as well. I also know you think it can be done, they used to say that about Jungle Corns as well, humm, I have seen it done with them, why not these as well. I think you will prove it can be done!!! Just don't give up.
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Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

Cool Photo, and Congrats.

But on the no egg tooth subject, what other hybrids do you know of that dont have them.
It would be nice to see a list, to be honest i wouldnt want to breed reps or x reps that dont grow an egg tooth, surely thats a bad trait to breed in, not everyone is going to window their eggs and if done incorrectly can surely damage the baby inside.

No egg tooth sounds like a bad one to me.

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For the hell of it i tried a pinky, now im an addict and eat at least 5 a week. Its strange but when you get used to them they taste like eggs.

Stinky

I did not mean that hybrids as a rule don't form an egg tooth. I have heard of situations where one or two in a cluth did not. I would open up eggs regardless of what's inside. Even with a non-hybrid there is a chance that not every baby could form an egg tooth or get out on it's own, why chance it? Ron.
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"If it can't kill you, why keep it?"

>>I did not mean that hybrids as a rule don't form an egg tooth. I have heard of situations where one or two in a cluth did not. I would open up eggs regardless of what's inside. Even with a non-hybrid there is a chance that not every baby could form an egg tooth or get out on it's own, why chance it? Ron.
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>>"If it can't kill you, why keep it?"

Yeah sure iv heard of a couple of instances of random snakes not growing an egg tooth and expiring in the egg because of, it was just when you said ("It is mainly for that reason that some hybrids don't form an egg tooth" i kinda thought that it popped up more in some lines than normal.

Thanks for clearing that up for me, and great job with the Bateaters by the way.

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For the hell of it i tried a pinky, now im an addict and eat at least 5 a week. Its strange but when you get used to them they taste like eggs.

Stinky

Getting closer:

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"If it can't kill you, why keep it?"