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Albinos.... what's the deal?

waspinator421 Jun 06, 2007 11:39 PM

I've heard that Albino Brazilians do exist. The only information I can find, though, is that there is one known specimen.

Does anyone have any information on who has this specimen, and any other information? I would love to get an Albino, but I don't even know where to start. I know that once I do find one that it will cost me my first born, but I feel like it will be a while before they are available... am I right?

Also.... what's the deal with the Calico BRB's... is it genetic?

Thanks!
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Replies (16)

flavor Jun 06, 2007 11:57 PM

The gentleman who has the only albino BRB that I know of is named Ian Gniazdowski. I've never spoken to him. Only seen a picture of the albino in a book called "Designer Morphs". Ian is given the photo credit but there is no account of the animals origins or if it has been bred. I'd love for Ian to participate in our forum and give a little background info on the snake. Needless to say, albino genes would add a whole other dimension to breeding these animals. Can you imagine a snow or sunglow BRB!!!

The only known calico BRB belongs to Brian Sharp. It's assumed the trait is genetic but I don't think it has been proven yet. I had the opportunity to buy the calico animal at one point. I'm still tempted, but I'd like to see the trait proven first.
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Mike Lockwood
www.tooscaley.com

FRoberts Jun 07, 2007 08:56 AM

people have been claiming up and down that calico retic's are genetic, too date, no one has really proven this to me, there would be a lot more around if that where accurate. Retic's lay a lot of eggs and you would see a lot more of them. Every other anomaly in retic's started from "one" specimen showing the particular anomaly and is prevalent in the hobby in a short period of time. Calicos have been around longer than most of these proven traits and yet are still pretty rare in the hobby. I know these are not retic's, but I also believe there would be more calicos BRB's for sale if it where a simple recessive inheritable trait.
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Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

FRoberts Jun 07, 2007 08:59 AM

It may be genetic, but, I realy do not believe how it's transmitted has been figured out.
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Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

flavor Jun 07, 2007 05:19 PM

I didn't know that about retics. But, this is the reason I haven't gotten into the calico morph. I'm going to let someone else figure out how it works. Thanks for the info!
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Mike Lockwood
www.tooscaley.com

TimOsborne Jun 07, 2007 01:41 PM

Mike there is at least one other calico around.. it was a WC animal that came in this year.. no where near as nice as Brian Sharps animal is... put speckled none the less..

>>The gentleman who has the only albino BRB that I know of is named Ian Gniazdowski. I've never spoken to him. Only seen a picture of the albino in a book called "Designer Morphs". Ian is given the photo credit but there is no account of the animals origins or if it has been bred. I'd love for Ian to participate in our forum and give a little background info on the snake. Needless to say, albino genes would add a whole other dimension to breeding these animals. Can you imagine a snow or sunglow BRB!!!
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>>The only known calico BRB belongs to Brian Sharp. It's assumed the trait is genetic but I don't think it has been proven yet. I had the opportunity to buy the calico animal at one point. I'm still tempted, but I'd like to see the trait proven first.
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>>Mike Lockwood
>>www.tooscaley.com
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TimOsborne Jun 07, 2007 12:00 AM

There is a proven line of CRB albinos..

The BRBs though, while there are 1 or 2 specimens in private collections out there that appear to be albinos. None have been proven to be genetic, so while they may appear albino, it is still uncertain.

When the do become available.. and there will be albinos sooner or later (even if the existing ones prove to not be albino.. it is only a matter of time) - but you can be certain that they will fetch a hefty price for a while.

The calico is another trait that there are a few animals showing the visual traits of.. but to my knowledge, it has yet to be proven to be a genetic trait.

>>I've heard that Albino Brazilians do exist. The only information I can find, though, is that there is one known specimen.
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>>Does anyone have any information on who has this specimen, and any other information? I would love to get an Albino, but I don't even know where to start. I know that once I do find one that it will cost me my first born, but I feel like it will be a while before they are available... am I right?
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>>Also.... what's the deal with the Calico BRB's... is it genetic?
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>>Thanks!
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strictly4fun Jun 07, 2007 12:35 AM

That albino BRB is magnificent and stunning and hands down the best looking BRB I have ever seen. Even though Mike answered pretty much everything I would imagine that since a T- crb is 15k that the T- BRB is easily 20k. That calico BRB that Bryan Sharp has is a proven breeder so I don't know how long he has had it but maybe his offspring will be about breeding size real soon so hopefully and make some more calicos and hopefully a pied version (if it is inheritable) cuz that would be cool to look at I would imagine.
Bob

sean1976 Jun 07, 2007 02:36 AM

Also I know of a breeder who is producing albino CRBxBRB I assume at 50/50.

But yeah true albino's will likely fetch a higher price initially then hypo's did and I suspect hold it slightly longer as it is a more dramatic difference in appearance and also a traditionally more popular morph in most species of snake.

Can't wait to see em though.

Sean.

Raveness_d Jun 07, 2007 09:08 AM

I thought I saw some pictures of an albino Rainbow Boa in the gallery awhile back...

....here it is: Albino Adult

Baby

Here's his Website

I don't know how legit this is, but I thought I'd pipe in.
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Danielle

Herps:
1.1 BRBs
1.0 Amel Motley Corn
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Other critters:
1.0 Great Dane
1.0 Siamese
1 Senegal Parrot
1 Blue Fronted Amazon

Raveness_d Jun 07, 2007 09:09 AM

www.rubiosreptiles.com/interface.html

There.
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Danielle

Herps:
1.1 BRBs
1.0 Amel Motley Corn
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Other critters:
1.0 Great Dane
1.0 Siamese
1 Senegal Parrot
1 Blue Fronted Amazon

TimOsborne Jun 07, 2007 12:35 PM

Danielle, those are legit proven albinos.. but they are Columbians..

>>www.rubiosreptiles.com/interface.html
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>>There.
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>>Danielle
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>>Herps:
>>1.1 BRBs
>>1.0 Amel Motley Corn
>>----------------------
>>Other critters:
>>1.0 Great Dane
>>1.0 Siamese
>>1 Senegal Parrot
>>1 Blue Fronted Amazon
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photos.xtremecombatsports.com

Jeff Clark Jun 07, 2007 03:00 PM

I have seen some of Ricardos albino Colombian Rainbows and they are the class act of albino Rainbow Boas.
Jeff

>>Danielle, those are legit proven albinos.. but they are Columbians..
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>>>>www.rubiosreptiles.com/interface.html
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>>>>There.
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>>>>Danielle
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>>>>Herps:
>>>>1.1 BRBs
>>>>1.0 Amel Motley Corn
>>>>----------------------
>>>>Other critters:
>>>>1.0 Great Dane
>>>>1.0 Siamese
>>>>1 Senegal Parrot
>>>>1 Blue Fronted Amazon
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>>photos.xtremecombatsports.com

TimOsborne Jun 07, 2007 03:29 PM

They are amazing animals for sure..

>>I have seen some of Ricardos albino Colombian Rainbows and they are the class act of albino Rainbow Boas.
>>Jeff
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>>>>Danielle, those are legit proven albinos.. but they are Columbians..
>>>>
>>>>>>www.rubiosreptiles.com/interface.html
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>>>>>>There.
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>>>>>>Danielle
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>>>>>>Herps:
>>>>>>1.1 BRBs
>>>>>>1.0 Amel Motley Corn
>>>>>>----------------------
>>>>>>Other critters:
>>>>>>1.0 Great Dane
>>>>>>1.0 Siamese
>>>>>>1 Senegal Parrot
>>>>>>1 Blue Fronted Amazon
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>>>>photos.xtremecombatsports.com
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photos.xtremecombatsports.com

miloradovich Jun 07, 2007 09:42 AM

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waspinator421 Jun 07, 2007 01:10 PM

Thank you everyone for your replies. I looked up that guy's name and found that his business is Outback Reptiles. I could be wrong, but that was all I found under that name. I sent an e-mail to Outback to see if they are indeed the ones with the albino, but haven't gotten a response as of yet.

I did check out that picture on Designer Morphs website.... looks pretty awesome!

Thanks again everyone! You have been of great help!
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strictly4fun Jun 07, 2007 01:50 PM

the Albino Brazilian Aubrey he also has a

Licorice Brazilian
Anery Brazilian
Albino Argentine
Albino Columbian
Leucistic Columbian

sounds like a very expensive collection to me
Bob

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