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Hello everyone,

I was looking thru the adds and ive noticed some Super Balls for sale. I also heard of a guy wanting to cross a dwarf Burmese with a Ball.. I guess a "Burmball"

Whats the thoughts by the avid ball breeders and keepers on such hybrids?
By the way i have a little albino het male ball called Mr. Biggellsworth.

Thanks

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Adrian De Leon
Hissenia Reptiles

I think they are a crime ageist nature and animals that do not or will never breed in the wiled should not be bred in captivity if it was in the skeam of things for them to breed Nature would see to it . If you play with fire your going to get burned .Thanks David of DS Reptile Rescue

I'm not for or against hybrids personally, but saying that they are against nature is kind've ironic.
Most morphs are against nature.
If we hadn't collected and bred them on purpose, evolution would have killed them off.
White and yellow in a green and brown world generally doesn't do very well.
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"What is man without the beasts?
If all the beasts were gone,
men would die from great loneliness of spirit.
For what happens to the beasts,
soon happens to men.
All things are connected."

-Chief Seattle (Duwamish Tribe)

Comparing hybrids to mutations is ignorant to say the least!

Mankind has been manipulating nature for a long time, why is the planet dying? Human beings are selfish....so sad...

Brian A.

How is it ignorant?
Both are humans controlling nature.
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"What is man without the beasts?
If all the beasts were gone,
men would die from great loneliness of spirit.
For what happens to the beasts,
soon happens to men.
All things are connected."

-Chief Seattle (Duwamish Tribe)

all a morph is is a hybrid so to say putting hybrids and morphs in same category is ingnorent is a falsity. nature is not being destroyed because new creatures are made. nature is being destroyed because humans are a gready race that only wants to prospure and cares nothing for itself (except for select few) all sorts of animals are made for a purpose i beleive hybrids are no haRM only that prices for them should not be jacked way it. if it breeds what the hell see what it make --just my opinion
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GOOSEBALLS

lamina1982@hotmail.com

but they are all in the same genas, they are all Balls

I understand that aspect of it. Sure, we're breeding ball pythons to ball pythons. What I'm saying is we are reversing the evolution of ball pythons becuase we are selectively breeding mutations that nature has tried to eliminate.

And come to think of it, hybridization isn't as uncommon as we once thought it the wild. (Read this article in the hybrid forum. Thought it was interesting)
Hybrid article

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"What is man without the beasts?
If all the beasts were gone,
men would die from great loneliness of spirit.
For what happens to the beasts,
soon happens to men.
All things are connected."

-Chief Seattle (Duwamish Tribe)

I really like the ball hybrids - aside from the burmball as I don't think combining two animals with such a great difference in body mass will make for healthy snakes - but we'll see. The Wall is just off the wall - Angolan Ball is hot and the Super balls - are interesting as well.

Most people don't like the hybrids either because they are "Against Nature" - if that were true then they wouldn't be able to reproduce, nature has a way of taking care of itself. Or two because they don't want the gene pool contaminated - whos really to say that somewhere down the line you won't be buying a snake whos great great grandmother was a hybrid - always a possibility - but can you guarantee with 100% certainty that all those balls being imported every year are 100% ball python as well.
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Tosha
JET Pythons

Check out the hybrid forums

Oh well why don’t ya’ll just breed every thing to every thing and end up with just one kind of snake that way I can drastically reduce my rodent bill and save space on caging because I would only need one snake to have it all !!. David of DS Reptile Rescue.

Alot of Hybrids do NOT develope an egg tooth, perhaps there is a reason for this.eggs are manualy piped prior to the estimated hatch date.

Joe.