Reptile & Amphibian Forums

Welcome to kingsnake.com's message board system. Here you may share and discuss information with others about your favorite reptile and amphibian related topics such as care and feeding, caging requirements, permits and licenses, and more. Launched in 1997, the kingsnake.com message board system is one of the oldest and largest systems on the internet.

Click for 65% off Shipping with Reptiles 2 You
Click for 65% off Shipping with Reptiles 2 You

Normal Albino X T Albinos??

hiss_n_herps Jun 08, 2007 04:48 PM

Does anybody know of anyone in the Boa Community that has tried breeding T Albinos to Normal Albinos yet? If so, what was the outcome??

Thanks

Chris

Replies (4)

gmherps Jun 08, 2007 07:41 PM

Babies are DH for both strains.
-----
Greg Holland
GM HERPS
www.imageevent.com/gmherps
gmherps@sbcglobal.net

stconstrictors Jun 08, 2007 10:17 PM

do you know for sure that they are dh????

JordanNRussell Jun 09, 2007 06:45 AM

There is the paradigm boa, Mike @ Basically Boas produced. (Sharp X Boawoman "hypo" Assuming that they share the same allele (and assuming I understand this) it should work similarly to a corn snake morph that hatched out somewhat recently. I would assume it is possible with other strains of T /T- combinations, if they share the same allele....

Paul Hollander Jun 11, 2007 01:56 PM

The basic idea here is correct, but the definition of allele needs work.

Alleles are different forms of a gene. If we call a chromosome the equivalent of a page of text, then each gene is equivalent to one sentence in that page. The wild type or normal allele is a sentence without a typographical error. A mutant allele is the same as the normal allele except it has the equivalent of a typographical error. Different typos in the sentence make different mutant alleles, but they all have the same location in the chromosome (page).

In snakes, each mutant gene has a normal allele and no other alleles. In other words, in this situation, there are two alleles at a given locus (a location in a chromosome). The Kahl albino mutant gene has a normal allele, and the caramel albino has a normal allele. But the Kahl albino and the caramel albino have different loci (loci is the plural of locus).

Sometimes there may be three or more alleles for a given locus. More than two alleles is called multiple alleles. It looks like the Sharp albino could be one mutant allele, the boawoman hypo is another mutant allele, and the normal allele is the third allele. By the way, this idea needs more testing, but it's the best explanation (in my opinion) for the data that's been collected so far.

In mice and other species, over a dozen alleles have been identified at a given locus. However, a single animal can have no more than two of those alleles. But they all could show up in a group of a few dozen animals.

The point of this post is that while there are cases of multiple alleles, it is not necessary for any two mutant genes to be alleles. In mice, over 50 loci with mutants affecting color and pattern have been identified. With the relativley small number of mutant genes known so far in snakes, it is more surprising to find a case of multiple alleles than not to find one. While I have no doubt that more cases of multiple alleles will show up with time and testing, there is no need for any given case to be multiple alleles.

Paul Hollander

Site Tools