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few questions

sport72186 Jun 09, 2007 07:42 AM

I am planning on eventually acquiring a few bearded dragons to breed. I plan on getting them as babies or juveniles. I have two questions to start off:

1. What are everyone's favorite morphs? And what is a good reasonably priced morph(s) for a first breeder pair?

2. I have heard a lot about not breeding two animals from the same clutch. However, I was wondering if it is safe for two animals to breed if they have the same parents but are from a different clutch?
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1.1 Western Painted Turtle (Mougly, Scooter)
0.1 Albino Leopard Gecko (Daphne)

Replies (3)

PHLdyPayne Jun 09, 2007 01:06 PM

everybody has different favorites, so trying to figure out what everybody's favorite morph is, is a bit difficult. On a sellers point, the new things seem to be translucents and hypos. Strong reds are always good too.

It doesn't matter which clutch the babies come from, it is still inbreeding to breed two dragons who share the same parents. The genetics don't change just because the dragons are from different clutches of the same parents, they are still technically brother and sister..just different ages. If the father was different or the mother different...then the babies are not as closely related, be half brother/sister.

If you are hoping to breed, it is best to get dragons that are as unrelated as possible. Buy from different breeders, check to make sure you know where they bought their stock from so you are not buying cousins etc.

Another point, breeding dragons can be very costly and alot of work. Do it because you love keeping dragons, not to make money. While it is possible to make money, it is not guaranteed. The first couple years will be the most costly, as you buy everything you need and you will spend alot of money on food, easily as much as $25 a day on crickets alone, once you have a couple clutches of hatchlings running around. You need space to house all the babies, a good method of advertising and arrangements for shipping, websites help too. Or the ability to go to shows as well, to sell off all your offspring. Thinking of just selling all your babies to a pet store isn't the way to go. Many pet stores won't buy babies from local breeders, some already have suppliers are may not be willing to try new ones etc. Research your market completely, before getting into breeding. Remember bearded dragons are prolific, capable of having up to 100 babies a season easily. (average may be more like 50-80 but big healthy females can lay clutches as large as 25-35 and as many as 4-5 clutches, some will even have 6 or 7 clutches)
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PHLdyPayne

sport72186 Jun 09, 2007 04:19 PM

Thanks for your input and your clarification of inbreeding. I am not planning to breed to make profit. I am finding myself enthused with breeding reptiles. I have started breeding with leopard geckos. I have 2 turtles that I plan to breed when they are old enough. Upon looking for the next species to breed, I have fallen in love with beardies and their temperament. I am not planning to get beardies for another year or so, but I am doing my research now. From what I know so far, I like the red phases the best but I know there are several more out there that I haven't seen yet. Any other input or pictures would be helpful.
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1.1 Western Painted Turtle (Mougly, Scooter)
0.1 Albino Leopard Gecko (Daphne)

highendreptiles Jun 09, 2007 07:23 PM

If you are not getting into them until next year I would buy only the best of the best dragons. I would look around and buy the nicest dragon you can find to breed. I made that mistake and bought half way decent dragons and bought a few pairs. It is better to spend extra in the long run. Trust Me. Also I would look into the translucents (hypo trans) or the new silkbacks which can be seen on dachiu.com which if you are waiting till next year they might come out next year. If you go to the photo gallery 3 page you will see the silkback almost at the bottom. They have some cool coloring and no scales.
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Darien Drollinger
www.djsdragonranch.com

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