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accidentally posted this in genetics/morphs section, but no one ever goes there...

Any ideas as to why Snow and Ghost became so popular, while Blizzard and Phantom remain somewhat hidden away? I for one would like to see more Phantoms out there. Their look beats a ghost hands down IMHO.

Also, are there any other charcoal crosses available besides Blizzard and Phantom? Such as a Charcoal Lavender, Charcoal Caramel or Striped Phantom?

I am STRONGLY considering selling my two Honduran milks and getting into corns. Which would be easier to find in your opinions:

a Phantom X double het Phantom pair or
a Hypo het Charcoal X Charcoal het Hypo pair?

They'd each give the same 1:1:1:1 ratio of known genotypes and phenotypes when crossed.

Last thing: would a homozygous Anery A and Charcoal be indistinguishable from a Charcoal? Or would there be subtle differences like that of the Hybino?
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~Venom~

Hybrid Breeders Association

I'm not sure you can have homo for both Anery and charcoal since they are incompatible. I do have a pair of phantoms that are awesome looking!! I will pair the male with my hypo stripe female next year so I'll have hypos het stripe het charcoal. Hoping to be able to produce my own striped phantoms in a few years!!

female phantom, slow grower, another year for her

male phantom - pushing 31 inches now so he'll be ready to go next breeding season

> I'm not sure you can have homo for both Anery and charcoal since
> they are incompatible.

Are they same gene pair?
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3.6 L. getula californiae - 16 eggs (Cal. King)
1.1 L. getula nigrita (MBK)
1.0 Pantherophis guttatus guttatus (Corn)
0.1 Pituophis catenifer catenifer (Pacific gopher)
3.3 Elgaria multicarinata multicarinata - 14 eggs (Cal. Alligator Lizard)

You can have both traits in a homozygous state,it's not really that they are incompatible, It's just that Charcoal masks Anery A
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Arlon Delorge
Classic Constrictors

thats interesting. Is their any way to tell if a snake is homogenous for both with out breeding?

No, not without breeding trials
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Arlon Delorge
Classic Constrictors

Just to clarify (for myself) phantom is a hypo charcoal correct?
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.1 Snow Corn "Hope"
1. Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Chunk" (Goonies)
.1 Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Peaches"

"Have you ever tried simply turning off the T.V., sitting down with your kids... and hitting them?"

correct, they are also known as charcoal ghosts.